vtr to vts torque
 

has a vtr got more low down torque than a vts or am i just being bull shi**ted:wacko:

certainly feels like it.

The VTS seems to be a bit 'sluggish' below 4000rpm like then kicks in whereas the VTR has a much smooth torque by the feel of it.

ive driven both, vtr certainly kicks in first at around 2.5k revs vts is around 4

vts does feel sluggish til 4k

yes it does

Yeah vtr is a really torquey car especially once its got breathin mods it goes at praticly any revs!

that would be cause the vts is twin cam. it needs the second band for its torque, dont let that fool ya cause if ya get it right when ya pull off ya gone.

i tihk you's are getting a bit mixed up.
vts has more torque than a vtr, BUT the vtr makes its peak torque lower down the rev range than the vts.

thats correct & thats also y the 0-60 times are very similar.

hahahahahahhahahahaahhaa. No.

Having actually driven both the VTR and VTS feel very similar to about 3.5k and then the S is much quicker. VTR 0-60 is around the 9 second mark, the VTS is at 7.2. The S is also 9 seconds quicker to 100. Which is loads

on paper the above is true but on the 1/4 mile they are only 1-2 secs difference, that puzzels me a bit????

2 seconds on a quarter is a lot. THe VTRs main problem is it runs out of beans at about 70mph, 70-100 takes around a week

8valve = makes power low down, 16valve = needs to be revved to make power.

Torque at about 2k I believe is the same for both, the VTR feels more torquey as it runs out qucker

this is what i thought! VTR is ever so slightly lighter also i think...

yes it is but not much lighter and its only the bit of extra engine weight! i think.

15kg between the two if i remember rightly

Peak torques at:
3000 for the VTR
5200 for the VTS

Hence why the VTR seems just as nippy at low speeds and brief blips on the throttle

spot on mate!

ayup scott how the fcuk did you get all yer reps? i help loads of people and they give me F/A! lol

obviously these are standard figures. peaks change with mods.

so 1.6% difference in weight yet the VTS has 20% more power BUT...

The VTS only has 7% more torque over a Mk1 VTR!