vtr to vts torque - Saxperience

blacksax1 · 24th August 2006, 21:29

has a vtr got more low down torque than a vts or am i just being bull shi**ted

Barry123 · 24th August 2006, 21:31

certainly feels like it.

The VTS seems to be a bit 'sluggish' below 4000rpm like then kicks in whereas the VTR has a much smooth torque by the feel of it.

Yates · 24th August 2006, 21:58

ive driven both, vtr certainly kicks in first at around 2.5k revs vts is around 4

vts does feel sluggish til 4k

bullit · 24th August 2006, 22:40

yes it does

godfridge · 24th August 2006, 23:15

Yeah vtr is a really torquey car especially once its got breathin mods it goes at praticly any revs!

Leegriffiths · 25th August 2006, 00:25

that would be cause the vts is twin cam. it needs the second band for its torque, dont let that fool ya cause if ya get it right when ya pull off ya gone.

williamsvts · 25th August 2006, 08:52

i tihk you's are getting a bit mixed up.
vts has more torque than a vtr, BUT the vtr makes its peak torque lower down the rev range than the vts.

WestyVTR · 25th August 2006, 08:59

thats correct & thats also y the 0-60 times are very similar.

CampDavid · 25th August 2006, 09:09

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Originally Posted by WestyVTR

thats correct & thats also y the 0-60 times are very similar.

hahahahahahhahahahaahhaa. No.

Having actually driven both the VTR and VTS feel very similar to about 3.5k and then the S is much quicker. VTR 0-60 is around the 9 second mark, the VTS is at 7.2. The S is also 9 seconds quicker to 100. Which is loads

williamsvts · 25th August 2006, 09:12

on paper the above is true but on the 1/4 mile they are only 1-2 secs difference, that puzzels me a bit????

CampDavid · 25th August 2006, 09:13

2 seconds on a quarter is a lot. THe VTRs main problem is it runs out of beans at about 70mph, 70-100 takes around a week

Ry_B · 25th August 2006, 10:49

8valve = makes power low down, 16valve = needs to be revved to make power.

CampDavid · 25th August 2006, 11:08

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Originally Posted by Ry_B

8valve = makes power low down, 16valve = needs to be revved to make power.

Torque at about 2k I believe is the same for both, the VTR feels more torquey as it runs out qucker

WestyVTR · 25th August 2006, 12:04

this is what i thought! VTR is ever so slightly lighter also i think...

spencer_cammedvts · 25th August 2006, 12:39

yes it is but not much lighter and its only the bit of extra engine weight! i think.

Scott^p · 25th August 2006, 12:40

15kg between the two if i remember rightly

Barry123 · 25th August 2006, 12:43

Peak torques at:
3000 for the VTR
5200 for the VTS

Hence why the VTR seems just as nippy at low speeds and brief blips on the throttle

spencer_cammedvts · 25th August 2006, 12:43

spot on mate!

ayup scott how the fcuk did you get all yer reps? i help loads of people and they give me F/A! lol

spencer_cammedvts · 25th August 2006, 12:44

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Originally Posted by adsayer

Peak torques at:
3000 for the VTR
5200 for the VTS

Hence why the VTR seems just as nippy at low speeds and brief blips on the throttle

obviously these are standard figures. peaks change with mods.

Barry123 · 25th August 2006, 12:45

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Originally Posted by Scott

15kg between the two if i remember rightly

so 1.6% difference in weight yet the VTS has 20% more power BUT...

The VTS only has 7% more torque over a Mk1 VTR!