power figures FAQ! advise wanted.

[Toby-VTR]

right im looking at performance upgrades and want to know what realistic power + performace figures i will reach from following mods, also what is the price of a remap?

eccosse carbon induction (scoop style)
cams
adjustable pulleys
remap
4-2-1 manifold with decat and no centre silencer

start car is 98bhp saxo VTR. thanks Toby

[AliC]

Really it all depends on the cam's m8, the rest of the breather mod's arent going to really take effect until the cams are in and its been mapped!

[Toby-VTR]

think there kent 708's? not sure any help? iv been trying to find out,

[smearsvtr]

didn't think they did a 708 profile for the vtr and by the way cam is the correct term when it comes to vtr as it only has 1 m8 ;) by the way i have heard that the 285 profile is good for a vtr try qep as they deal with cat cams which i hear many good things about

[Toby-VTR]

didn't think they did a 708 profile for the vtr and by the way cam is the correct term when it comes to vtr as it only has 1 m8 ;) by the way i have heard that the 285 profile is good for a vtr try qep as they deal with cat cams which i hear many good things about

yeh i know my stuff when it comes to mechanics, 8V single CAM lol no its a specific cam im being offered, just trying to find out.

can anybody give me a ballpark figure with said mods?

[Toby-VTR]

ok its a kent cam and pulley kit, pt 40 266 duration. anybody want to explain this to me?

[Toby-VTR]

nobody??

[Toby-VTR]

BUMP!!

[AXracing]

Depends how well its done. But as its a late engines the original valve springs, rockers and ECU are very limiting so don’t expect miracles. You could always go for a full cam kit with springs, caps, rockers, pully and cam. That will open you up to much greater gains than just the cam. £400 plus for a good map as well.

[Toby-VTR]

yeh i wasnt expecting it to be masssive maybe around the 125bhp mark with all the work done?

[samcook]

would be more power per pounds if you stuck a vts engine in mate

[Toby-VTR]

would be more power per pounds if you stuck a vts engine in mate

going to be looking at around 2k to drop in a VTS PROPERLY!
when all this will cost around 1k and should give same if not better performance.

[leeds106]

yeh i wasnt expecting it to be masssive maybe around the 125bhp mark with all the work done?




with

gmc 4-1 manifold
pugsport
filter
kent 266 cam


my quiky which is running a 98bh vtr engine made 124.5 bhp a month ago



thats without a remap also and it runs perfectly fine and idles fine once warmed up

[GroomGTI]

with

gmc 4-1 manifold
pugsport
filter
kent 266 cam


my quiky which is running a 98bh vtr engine made 124.5 bhp a month ago



thats without a remap also and it runs perfectly fine and idles fine once warmed up

what dose your car idle at warmed up?

[Quick]

Vtr with 120bhp won't be as quick as a stock Vts.
The vtr box is much longer!

[leeds106]

well dials say 1k but on diagnostic machine is was showing just under



tends to touch about 1800rpm for a few secs and then slowly drops but it idles about 1300rpm till it warms up but after a few mins its perfectly fine

[leeds106]

Vtr with 120bhp won't be as quick as a stock Vts.
The vtr box is much longer!

see i say thats bollox cos i fine my vtr box perfectly fine in all gears



and till 80mph mine will stick by a vts pretty damn well

[GroomGTI]

well dials say 1k but on diagnostic machine is was showing just under



tends to touch about 1800rpm for a few secs and then slowly drops but it idles about 1300rpm till it warms up but after a few mins its perfectly fine

Mine idles like below the 1k mark:n:

[leeds106]

it should do so far as i know they idle at about 850k




you can also fit a 285 cam with a remap and it will run as smooth as it did with standard cam in im told by a good source


think in new year im going for the 285 and remap so im hopeful of hitting around the 140bhp mark :)

[SNewham]

I'm hoping to get around 130BHP with the same mods including headwork and a remap when I get my VTR engine in.


scott

[GroomGTI]

i have it cammed not sure which cam it is like, but dont have a remap

[leeds106]

I'm hoping to get around 130BHP with the same mods including headwork and a remap when I get my VTR engine in.


scott

no reason why you shouldnt tbh

[leeds106]

i have it cammed not sure which cam it is like, but dont have a remap




if its running quite moothly on idle then id hazard a guess its a 266 or there abouts

[featherz]

Its a fact a 125 hp vtr will not stick with a vts, the vts gear box is alot shorter meaning it accelrates alot quicker, chuck a s1 box in and you will be grinning ear to ear, personally id prefer a quick 8v to a slow 16v anyday...

[bullit]

a 285 degree cam also will need more work to run it

[jonezy]

that much eh, christ il fucking do it now!

[leeds106]

a 285 degree cam also will need more work to run it

uprated springs and an adjustable pulley so it can be fully adjusted when remapped