which cams?

[carlos1234]

hi, what cams do u recommend if money is no object. its only bein used for road use but i do quite alot ov 0-60 races, which ones are best for quick starts, not so botherd about top end.

[bullit]

popular ones now are catcams and newmans cams

[davew]

i'd go for catcams personally

[Toad]

What's the difference? I'm using catcams, no idea about Newmans...

[manc]

Newman (http://www.newman-cams.com/index.html)PH1 ;), power range of 1.5k to 5.5k.

This along with a catcam vernier pulley should be going in mine very soon :d

ManC

[williamsvts]

also, it would help if you said what saxo you had.

[manc]

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ManC

[carlos1234]

ive got a 03 plate vts, so there the best ya can buy? what should i expect with a custom exuast with decat, supersprint 4-2-1 man, cams and a remap? and would i need a new ecu?

[Toad]

The term 're-map' is loosely used in the sense of mapping a stock ECU. It all depends what you want to do in the long run. If you are going to stop after what you have mentioned, then there's nothing wrong with having your stock ECU re-mapped. You're looking at about £400+ BTW... If you were considering installing throttle bodies at a later date, then it would be prudent to purchase a stand-alone ECU, such as an OMEX.

[carlos1234]

well im planing on doin as much as i can with it apart from going turbo, how much are these standalone ecu,s?

[Toad]

Expensive. You have to sort out the loom too, so costs rise I'm afraid. The ECU on its own, if you go for the 600 series (recommended!) of the OMEX, it'll set you back around £550 - £600. Then there's the loom, (probably around £150) and then you need it mapped on the rollers. (£350 roughly)

As you can see, this is a lot of money. When people talk about going with throttle bodies, the engine management is half the cost! So it's up to you at the end of the day. If you want to save a lot of money, do everything at once. The more sessions you break your upgrading into, the more costly it will become. Hope this helps...

[KamRacing]

i think you are asking the wrong questions about what cam you require. You will not get a cam for 0-60 runs or top end as you have to look into the cam profile in more detail. Your cam choice is based on your rev range. You can go for a performance cam that adds loads of power to the midrange, which will give a broad power range enabling fast exit out of all corners, more power on tap at slower speeds etc
or you can get a cam that pushes the power up the rev range which is more suited for driving flat out such as circuit racing, though it is more easy to come off cam.

If you are going to turbo at a later date then a high lift cam isnt what you are after and you would be better off spending the money on the turbo conversion, but a mildly uprated cam may be ok.

Pick a brand and tell them what the car is going to be used for and get their recommendation.

[carlos1234]

well i plan on doin everything i can to topspec, not going turbo, how much r these standalone ecus? n whats best ?

[carlos1234]

dint mean to send that

[bullit]

around 700 then mapping on top. kms is popular at the mo. need it though to run tbs

[carlos1234]

i wont be going turbo, god thats alot ov money, so if i dnt get throttlebodies i dont need to get a new ecu?

[bullit]

no. after cams it gets very expensive

[carlos1234]

is it worth spending, which i probably will, i have alot to spend anyway n i want top notch stuff, can u list everything i can get without turbos to increase power, im not to good on cars at min

[bullit]

first you need to know what your realistic budget is. then you and we can help decide what to put it towards. you wanna be looking to build an engine in one go if going serious na route. will save money in long run

[carlos1234]

well im getting a viper ind(not fully sure yet) custom exuast with decat, thats around 300 quid. supersprint man, then from there ill get the rest in one go, i plan on plowin lotsa money into it so im just pikin ya brains to find whats best so i can get a rough idea of how much i need, no set budget reali, will just be saving n buyin lol

[bullit]

first if going bodies you wont need an induction kit. also custom zorst tend to sap power. what is it? supersprint will be fine. have you looked into brakes suspension at all cause thats what you want to do first

[carlos1234]

its at a local place, there reali good, mates got one on his vts, well practically every moded car has one in donny lol, int it better to have a induction kit rather than standard though?

[carlos1234]

and yes i will be getin sus and brakes upgraded b4 i do cams n stuff. whats susp do u rekomend

[bullit]

with bodies, an induction kit is not needed, hence air will be going into the trumpets. have a look at godgti's engine for ideas. suspension. group n billies, custom springs. brakes, willwood, hispec