130 bhp standard

[accrombie]

has any 1 herd of a standard 130 bhp vts, if so whats the difference and how can u tell

[Predator_R32]

no all the VTS models came with a 120 bhp engine :y:

well some models abroad are called a VTS but have a 1.4 16 valve engine

[gibs-rallye]

it doesnt excist! has been discussed many times before

[babers]

yes we all now about the wonderful 130bhp vts witch is not real

[Tammy_VTS]

hahahaha!!! think there should be a new section on the forum :

Saxo VTS 130bhp queries!!!

[liam_b]

its a myth as i said in the other thread you asked in

[S34MER]

Oh my days, not this again!! hahaha

LBD!! lol

believe Bullit has one actually! :p

[TheMadSaxo]

Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.

However, have a read of this.......

"With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.

It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.

All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"

[S34MER]

its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....

1. where did you get that quote from?
2. don't believe everything you read mate! ;)

[Scott]

there was a difference in the head castings, though theres no proof or official line from citroen about any increase in power thats fact.

[accrombie]

in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard

[accrombie]

in my last post about the piggy back ecu . the guy who answered the post says his car is 130 bhp standard

[S34MER]

we got it the first time mate :P


believe Bullit has one actually! :p

already told you that mate!! but his is a one off limited edition 130bhp VTS ;)

[TheMadSaxo]

its all good and well you posting up a quote mate! but.....

1. where did you get that quote from?
2. don't believe everything you read mate! ;)

Was posted on this forum by a guy called Gabbastard the last time we discussed it and yes, you're right, it could be complete bollox for all I know!! ;)

The only certain thing is that Citroen never sold/marketed what you would call a 130bhp standard Vts.

[Toad]

Citroen have never advertised a 130bhp Saxo so in theory that is the answer to the question.

However, have a read of this.......

"With the impending L4 emissions regs coming in, the head and management was redesigned. As a consequence of the management changes and emissions control, the idea was that the engine would need to be slightly reworked to keep 120bhp. But the crossover period meant that some reworked head engines were released with older, less emissions strict management. Hence the small power increase.

It flows about 6% more than an earlier head; an increase which, applied to 120bhp, brings it to 127.2bhp.

All a myth? incorrect, its FACT that the heads flow more, so in theory, with correct fuelling and mapping, will make more power as standard"



I don't know about all that... But here's something that IS a fact. Wayne Schofield from Chipwizards has been mapping 106/VTS's for a fair few years. What he's noticed is that the older lumps (the ones without the EGR valve) actually make on average 5bhp more from the same camshaft upgrade and re-map compared to the newer models. This is fact, and has always been the case. The only difference they know of is the EGR valve, but it seems odd that this would be the root of the cause.

[belly_VTS]

the older ones also have a single plug ecu, people reckon that has something to do with older vts slightly faster aswell

[Ryan]

wall and head.........

[MaRiO89]

wall and head.........

Nice straight forward answer from ryan as normal!..:p

[DevilDamo]

You're kidding? I thought mine was one of the 130bhp models :(

:n:

[Predator_R32]

your not all that special damo :p bet your gutted eh :)

[bullit]

You're kidding? I thought mine was one of the 130bhp models

only mine mate :P

[Ryan]

Nice straight forward answer from ryan as normal!..:p

well id hate to dissapoint my fans ;)

[MaRiO89]

well id hate to dissapoint my fans ;)

LOL. :y: