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21st April 2008, 17:42
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: gloucestershire
Posts: 18
Car(s): a mk1 white saxo vts
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saxo vts turbo
hey guys i got a mk1 saxo vts and am bored of it so gunna get it turbo'ed.
was wondering if anyone knows sum good places to get it done?
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21st April 2008, 18:06
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 5,415
Car(s): Saxo
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http://www.cituning.ltd.uk/
http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/catalog/
EDIT: have a drive of a car with throttle bodies & one with a turbo. The power delivery is so much different, i wanted a turbo but now i want bodies as the power is easier to use.
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21st April 2008, 18:08
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L-plater
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: bury
Posts: 85
Car(s): 2001 orange and white (soon to be mazda spirited g
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would u get roughtly the same power increase from throttle bodies instead ov a turbo?
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21st April 2008, 18:11
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bridgend, South Wales
Posts: 11,234
Car(s): iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rally_chd
would u get roughtly the same power increase from throttle bodies instead ov a turbo?
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Pretty sure that would depend on the spec of each one.
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21st April 2008, 18:21
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yorkshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rally_chd
would u get roughtly the same power increase from throttle bodies instead ov a turbo?
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Boost will give you more power - Generally (well its easier)
Bodies can give you the same ammount of power but you will need more engine work. But bodies dont fall off boost. EG, you dont see 1000bhp throttle bodied cars.
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21st April 2008, 18:21
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pembrokeshire (Wales)
Posts: 87
Car(s): Saxo Vtr Mk2
Saxo Vts (turboCharged) Mk2
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turbo
turbo it!! cant beat a turbo!!
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21st April 2008, 18:23
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 6,790
Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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all wrong. supercharge is the way forward.
only joking, it all depends what you prefer and how big your pockets are.
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21st April 2008, 18:25
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L-plater
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pembrokeshire (Wales)
Posts: 87
Car(s): Saxo Vtr Mk2
Saxo Vts (turboCharged) Mk2
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turbo
never had the pleasure of driving a supercharged car
turbo it you will have so much fun to
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21st April 2008, 18:28
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bridgend, South Wales
Posts: 11,234
Car(s): iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.
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Ive only ever drive and been in a turbo'd car.
and i do love boost so much. never experienced that amount of fun in a car before.
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21st April 2008, 18:31
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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it is great driving a high powered turbo car, i think of it a challenge to keep it on boost lol.
throttle bodies is a totally different expirience, its a lo raw'rer, te sound is amazing and generally they are very drivable.
supercharge is more like t'b's as the power is more linear and power rises with revs so is also very drivable not to mention huge gains over n/a.
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21st April 2008, 19:45
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: norwich
Posts: 317
Car(s): 1999 vtr
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but how much would it cost to keep rebuilding the vte wiv a turbo tbs will be more reliable
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21st April 2008, 19:52
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickkwak07
but how much would it cost to keep rebuilding the vte wiv a turbo tbs will be more reliable
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not really. it all depends on engine spec, and the person who mapped it.
if using good strong parts and good mapping then turbo should be just as reliable as a normal vts. cost wise, if you spent 5k on tb's you would see about 200bhp and maybe a small powerband so good box is required, if you spent 5k on charging you should see at least 200bhp atw with very good torque and usable power.
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21st April 2008, 22:25
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wirral
Posts: 13,584
Car(s): Wickerd red VTS MK2,
Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..
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Turbo all the way matey!!....
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21st April 2008, 22:56
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 9,994
Car(s): Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
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turbo imo
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22nd April 2008, 11:16
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Derby United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 671
Car(s): 106 track beast
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N/A All the way
Bodies, lumpy cams, hi comp pistons, 200bhp 9000rpm
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22nd April 2008, 11:24
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Potters Bar United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 2,749
Car(s): T/B'd VTS
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as someone who has actually bought throttle bodies, i would go for boost if i were to do it again.
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22nd April 2008, 11:26
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Spalding-ish
Posts: 2,512
Car(s): Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
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Just out of interest what sort of cars is a 200bhp NA saxo compatable with in terms of speed? Gearbox will hinder topspeed i know but 0-100 times must be pretty damn fast
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22nd April 2008, 13:24
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ballymena, Northern Ireland
Posts: 291
Car(s): Saxo Vtr/S
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Turbos or supercharger are the best ratio for £ - BHP!!
you will never make a n/a engine the same power as a turbo wothout spending mega bucks!!
alos to get a really high powered n/a engine you would have bother getting it through MOT, because you would need really wild cams!!
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22nd April 2008, 13:37
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: letterkenny,donegal,ireland
Posts: 1,338
Car(s): citroen saxo VTS
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turbos can see over 300 bhp but bodies can just go over the 200 bhp mark
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22nd April 2008, 14:09
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Telford United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 3,962
Car(s): Focus RS
Saxo Vtr
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save and buy a turbo car, i wanted to turbo my sax but opted for the other option in the end, its much beter imo buying an already fast turbo car and modding that to go faster instead of having to ront money to repair and maintain a car that is modded to a turbo car from normally aspirated.
on another note tho ive had a cooper s and now got a focus rs and prefer turbo to supercharged for sure
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