8v to 16v? - Saxperience

cloke · 6th August 2010, 01:55

As above, is it possible? If so, how much work??

Oc2 · 6th August 2010, 02:01

Drop a VTS lump in yah

TipTopTom · 6th August 2010, 02:45

What on earth did he actually mean? did you want to just kind of, edit your existing engine?!

RAFkev · 6th August 2010, 03:32

Oh dear god! Are you like eleven years old!?

Do you want to put lasers in place of the fog lights and an ejector seat in and a big red button that says do not press?

You could super glue 8 valves to the rocker cover.

Hey presto. 16v!

TipTopTom · 6th August 2010, 04:29

Legend xD

cloke · 6th August 2010, 10:55

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Originally Posted by RAFkev

Oh dear god! Are you like eleven years old!?

Do you want to put lasers in place of the fog lights and an ejector seat in and a big red button that says do not press?

You could super glue 8 valves to the rocker cover.

Hey presto. 16v!

No I'm just not a mechanic. I thought that was what this site was for, to get help from people who know better?? So I'm sorry if my stupidity offended you, but a simple no wouldve sufficed! Arse!!

jamesb · 6th August 2010, 10:58

moody bastard lol

gazbrownvtr · 6th August 2010, 11:07

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Originally Posted by cloke

No I'm just not a mechanic. I thought that was what this site was for, to get help from people who know better?? So I'm sorry if my stupidity offended you, but a simple no wouldve sufficed! Arse!!

Agreed. He has come here for some advice. Slightly rude from RAFKev. And the answer is no, just do a VTS conversion if u wanted but not worth the time and money imo.

cloke · 6th August 2010, 11:09

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Originally Posted by gazbrownvtr

Agreed. He has come here for some advice. Slightly rude from RAFKev. And the answer is no, just do a VTS conversion if u wanted but not worth the time and money imo.

Alright mare, cheers for the advice.

I'm probs going to get a vts next November anyway.

Proffitt · 6th August 2010, 11:12

Try using the Search button mate

But to answer your question: The only way to do it would to do a full engine conversion to a VTS

Oc2 · 6th August 2010, 11:37

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Originally Posted by Oc2

Drop a VTS lump in yah

pretty sure i nailed this down sharpish, but okay...

RAFkev · 6th August 2010, 12:11

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Originally Posted by cloke

No I'm just not a mechanic. I thought that was what this site was for, to get help from people who know better?? So I'm sorry if my stupidity offended you, but a simple no wouldve sufficed! Arse!!

Sorry kid. I was in a silly sarky mood and couldn't resist!

But as said, a vts engine or the whole car is the way to go.

How old are you fella? A vts will rape young lads on insurance. I'm 26 with 6 years ncb and no points, accidents, etc and still pay £600+

Forgive me? X

stokesy · 6th August 2010, 12:13

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Originally Posted by gazbrownvtr

Agreed. He has come here for some advice. Slightly rude from RAFKev. And the answer is no, just do a VTS conversion if u wanted but not worth the time and money imo.

not worth the time and money??
defo worth the time and money imo.. if you want more power, thats the best mod to do to your vtr imo.. for the amount of money and time you spend rying to get your vtr to around the 120bhp mark, you could have dropped the vts lump in which gna be around the 120 mark, and probs be cheaper too.. then you have all the potential of getting far greater gains oout of that.
thats just my opinion though bud, your car, your money, so up to you..
but the vts lump just drops staright in, no messing about with fitting reli, just gotta sort out the wiring, any mechanic or person in the know be able to do it all..
hope helps a bit bud

cloke · 6th August 2010, 12:21

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Originally Posted by RAFkev

Sorry kid. I was in a silly sarky mood and couldn't resist!

But as said, a vts engine or the whole car is the way to go.

How old are you fella? A vts will rape young lads on insurance. I'm 26 with 6 years ncb and no points, accidents, etc and still pay £600+

Forgive me? X

Haha yeH dude your forgiven lol I'm 20 and I gt a 1.4 8v sx and it's 800quid :O lol do they do a 1.4 16v is that what's in the furios??

RAFkev · 6th August 2010, 12:30

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Originally Posted by cloke

Haha yeH dude your forgiven lol I'm 20 and I gt a 1.4 8v sx and it's 800quid :O lol do they do a 1.4 16v is that what's in the furios??

Thanks.

*I think* as I've only had vtr and vts that the vts is the only 16v model.
Think the furio is just a trim level up from the sx.

Don't quote me but I'm pretty sure that's how it goes.

jamesb · 6th August 2010, 18:41

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Originally Posted by RAFkev

Sorry kid. I was in a silly sarky mood and couldn't resist!

But as said, a vts engine or the whole car is the way to go.

How old are you fella? A vts will rape young lads on insurance. I'm 26 with 6 years ncb and no points, accidents, etc and still pay £600+

Forgive me? X

id be well happy with 600 notes, im 24 only 1 years no claims. no points or convictions, n pay 1300 third party............ no fire n theft or feck all..... might as well have pulled my pants down n bent over

stingray1987 · 10th August 2010, 21:33

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Originally Posted by stokesy

not worth the time and money??
defo worth the time and money imo.. if you want more power, thats the best mod to do to your vtr imo.. for the amount of money and time you spend rying to get your vtr to around the 120bhp mark, you could have dropped the vts lump in which gna be around the 120 mark, and probs be cheaper too.. then you have all the potential of getting far greater gains oout of that.
thats just my opinion though bud, your car, your money, so up to you..
but the vts lump just drops staright in, no messing about with fitting reli, just gotta sort out the wiring, any mechanic or person in the know be able to do it all..
hope helps a bit bud

how can it be cheaper to get a 16v (which after looking and looking for my quicksilver are about £350 for one with fuel rail,injectors,coil pack ecu and loom)

that will be a 2nd hand engine so you are going have to get the cambelt,rollers,tensioner and waterpump done atleast and cheapest i could get that was for £170

so thats £525 and u still havent done a service on the engine and that will cost £50-£60 if normal service (if doing conversion u might aswell do it right and replace all gaskets so that would cost abit unless u do it urself that would cost £50 atleast)

considering u own a well serviced vtr then u would have already done the cambelt,waterpump,tensioner and rollers and also done a service recently.
then u got :
-2nd hand 4-2-1 £40-£80 (before anyone says how hard it is get a 2nd hand one its much easyer than getting a good condition 16v engine)
-greens panel filter £38( new)
- newman ph3 camshaft form kam racing is £185
- 2 hours on rolling road to set cam up is £125
- if u decide to replace cambelt,tensioner and rollers while fitting camshaft for 8v is only £35 from euro car parts
- head gasket £20.
- straight through sentre seciotn (powerflow) £30

total for 125-130bhp (if ph2 98bhp standard) = £513 from 8b (with still cheap tax and insruance and good mpg)

total for 120bhp most with standard 16v conversion =£585 if all work is done by urself and the wiring is not as simple as you would have fort.
and asuming the ecu you got with the enigine is unlocked and that all sensors work and the engine is good as i have not included the price to rebuild the enigne to check it is ok.

the 16v is better yes.
cheaper NO

talking about this that reminds me ive got a 90bhp early silvertop engine i brought put in my quiksilver after not finding a 16v engine but its in the way in the garage and not got time fit it so if anyone near stoke on trent wants one with all sensors,ecu,loom,both manifolds and coilpack its urs for £40 if u collect.

cam69 · 10th August 2010, 22:24

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Originally Posted by jamesb

id be well happy with 600 notes, im 24 only 1 years no claims. no points or convictions, n pay 1300 third party............ no fire n theft or feck all..... might as well have pulled my pants down n bent over

that is alot im 21 pay 1300 fully comp and have 3 points but i think the insurance companys also go on the area you live in

stingray1987 · 10th August 2010, 22:34

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Originally Posted by cam69

that is alot im 21 pay 1300 fully comp and have 3 points but i think the insurance companys also go on the area you live in

you must have more no claims then as i can only get down to £900 third party fire and theft but i have had a crash and now have no no,claims.

cam69 · 10th August 2010, 22:37

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Originally Posted by stingray1987

you must have more no claims then as i can only get down to £900 third party fire and theft but i have had a crash and now have no no,claims.

i have one year no claims but did put my mum on as a named driver which brought it down a bit