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25th December 2011, 19:42
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306 GTi-6 Snapped Cambelt - Help Please!
Hi guys, I am buying, or shall we say in the process of buying a cambelt snap 306, for £200, the car itself is mint with subtle mods, it's easily worth the money in parts but seeing as it's such a clean shell I would like to fix the problem.
My question is how much does it cost? Other than the valves bending what else can damage? Guides? I am not too sure as i'm a novice when it comes to head work!
Not too sure whether this was the right forum to post in. The 306oc is always dead and I know a few owners on here have a GTi-6 so was just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction! Thanks.
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25th December 2011, 19:45
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Depends what damage has been done.
Could be fked valves, pistons, conrods ect.
Might be easier just putting a different engine into it.
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25th December 2011, 19:53
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How much would that be though? I think he was pulling away slowly in first, even so it doesn't really make a difference.
The engine was put in that car about 5 years ago, a fully refurbished one from Pug Preformance costing a fair amount of cash!
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25th December 2011, 19:58
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I would personnally rebuild it. No point breaking a decent car because of a cambelt. Same engines in the xsara, should be cheap enough to buy another engine for parts.
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25th December 2011, 20:03
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Only trouble is engines are not cheap like vts engines.
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25th December 2011, 20:05
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Is this the red one that was on gumtree few weeks back with a real vague description?
Engines are penny's theirs four on 205drivers ATM iirc.. Looking at circa £350 for one.
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25th December 2011, 20:06
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Only trouble is engines are not cheap like vts engines.
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True that.
Cheapest I could find on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/peugeot-30...item4ab18aba81
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25th December 2011, 20:09
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No, it was a friends, I was going to buy it but he wanted £1650 for it, I said i'd give him £1400 because the cambelt needed doing, he wouldn't have it, sold it to another friend and it went caput on it, the car is mint though, it's easily worth the money in the parts, amps and sound stuff is all coming with the car! I don't want to strip it though, i'd like to repair it and drive it, as it's such a clean example.
I would rather repair the engine in it, as I know it doesn't smoke/rattle etc, where as I could buy a different engine to find it smokes, taps what ever! How much would be the most to pay? I'd like it done fairly cheap but not so it goes again in 5k or what ever!
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25th December 2011, 22:28
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TTT???
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25th December 2011, 22:29
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Take the Head off and see whats what. Only way you're going to see what needs replacing. You may have got lucky with no damage, or just a couple of Valves.
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25th December 2011, 22:34
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Indeed, if it was just the valves that had bent how much would it cost to replace all of them?
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25th December 2011, 22:36
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I've no idea to be honest for the price of Valves.
Quick search of ebay I found saxo Valves are around 8quid each.. tbh, I'd hazard a guess at something around that figure?
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25th December 2011, 22:45
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I can't imagine they'd be that much more then! Even at a tenner, 16 valves would be £160, so how much would they be to fit? 
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25th December 2011, 23:12
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If your able to do the work yourself, then wouldnt be too bad, a new engine that will plug and play and your good.
If your going to be paying labour, then you wil be looking at a lot of money!
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26th December 2011, 01:09
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wack a new belt on it and see if it works
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26th December 2011, 09:33
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i had a cambelt slip a couple of teeth on a mates one we just changed the engine as people say a lot easier got an engine with about 80000 miles for 175. have a look on http://www.pug306.netto see if any one is breaking one or for some general advice
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26th December 2011, 09:40
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stop messing about
if you are repairing it ,
you need to remove head to see damage
+if you are fitting dif engine you need to remove it ,
so lift the head + remove cma s etc check valves +guides etc
and then you will know which is best way to proceed .
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26th December 2011, 17:53
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have a look on the 306gti6 forum!
they can suffer alot of damage from thwe belt going, the valve guides can be damaged and even if the valves look bent they may of damaged the valve head itslef!
many people have had the same damage, reapired the top end to find it has caused damage to the bottom which has gone a few miles later
only a few people in the country have the experiance and skills to rebuild one of these heads correctly and make sure it doesnt tap afterwards,
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27th December 2011, 10:31
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contact carl at c.g cars of leicester he supplied my mate with a fully rebuilt engine for around 400 i think
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27th December 2011, 21:54
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Different car (obviously...) but I had an old xr3i cambelt let go whilst sat in traffic. Took every valve, 1 piston and 1 conrod. I scrapped it.
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