power - Saxperience

graham22211 · 26th February 2012, 11:14

just thought id write this i read about people putting big engines in there cars to gain more power ie bhp insurence flys up and alot more fuel im not trying to teach anyone to suck eggs but its possible to get alot of bhp and spead if you need it ( speed kills) out of a smaller engine like induction changes having ur engine remapped or other related preformance parts just thought id add this ,,,,,,,,,,, and its fun trying to get there and i would say from past experience you get more satisfaction for your work ,,,,,, happy days/....

Tannerman · 26th February 2012, 11:24

wrighty89 · 26th February 2012, 11:24

not really but each to their own....

graham22211 · 26th February 2012, 18:13

not realy ??? as in satisfaction or u cant get more power out of a smal;l engine ??

Tontsy · 26th February 2012, 18:21

i like POWRARRR!

Heftydanielson · 26th February 2012, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Tontsy

i like POWRARRR!

Karlb1 · 26th February 2012, 19:20

You're gonna fit in just fine around here...get ready for the abuse.

Cam · 26th February 2012, 19:22

1.1 with a cam and re-map y0

Ryan^p · 26th February 2012, 19:23

And in English?

Ashleyp · 26th February 2012, 19:44

I love how the OP talks as if the saxo has just been invented...

16 years since the first saxo and thanks to this thread, I now know it's possible to mod the engine!

devilsadvocate · 26th February 2012, 19:47

Enclosed induction kit - £150
Full decat exhaust and manifold - £200 (2nd hand)
Cam - £150 (2nd hand)
Remap - £400 (roughly)

Total cost - £900 + labour (if you can't fit anything yourself)

You would be lucky to see 20bhp gain on a 98bhp VTR engine and you wouldn't be able to do much more unless you decided to spend $$$ fitting a turbo.

Cost of a VTS engine + fitting would be a similar price (could easily be cheaper) which
will give you an instant 20bhp gain and leave much more room for extra power with similar mods to the above.

Have to think about bhp per £ and fitting a 16v engine is the best way to achieve this.

MrJames · 26th February 2012, 20:10

Then when you declare all your nice performance mods to the insurance company it still goes up so does fuel consumption.....

devilsadvocate · 26th February 2012, 20:13

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Originally Posted by MrJames

Then when you declare all your nice performance mods to the insurance company it still goes up so does fuel consumption.....

Unless you are old and rich.... but then again why would you be driving a Saxo?

MrJames · 26th February 2012, 20:17

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

Unless you are old and rich.... but then again why would you be driving a Saxo?

Original post stated that insurance and fuel go up when putting a bigger engine in for more power, the same happens when you highly tune an engine

Heftydanielson · 26th February 2012, 20:38

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Originally Posted by MrJames

Then when you declare all your nice performance mods to the insurance company it still goes up so does fuel consumption.....

Not so much on the fuel.

It's a bigger engine in a small car so the engine isn't trying to move the weight as much as say a 1.1.

MrJames · 26th February 2012, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Heftydanielson

Not so much on the fuel.

It's a bigger engine in a small car so the engine isn't trying to move the weight as much as say a 1.1.

I was talking about the reasons against tuning say a 1.1 over dropping in a bigger engine lol

wrighty89 · 26th February 2012, 22:04

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Originally Posted by graham22211

not realy ??? as in satisfaction or u cant get more power out of a smal;l engine ??

No doubt you can get power out of relatively small engine. Look at the turbo and supercharged cars on here but they are still 1600's and have thousands spent on them. This of course will be great satisfaction especially if you have built it yourself.

But you claim you can get decent amounts of power from small engines with induction kits and remaps. Not at all. You'd be lucky to notice any difference from breathing mods on a sub 1600 engined saxo. Definitely nothing to be satisfied about.

I notice in your profile it says you own a 1.1 Saxo. I hope you didn't mean you could get any kind of performance gain with an induction kit or remap on it.

devilsadvocate · 27th February 2012, 07:55

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Originally Posted by wrighty89

No doubt you can get power out of relatively small engine. Look at the turbo and supercharged cars on here but they are still 1600's and have thousands spent on them. This of course will be great satisfaction especially if you have built it yourself.

But you claim you can get decent amounts of power from small engines with induction kits and remaps. Not at all. You'd be lucky to notice any difference from breathing mods on a sub 1600 engined saxo. Definitely nothing to be satisfied about.

I notice in your profile it says you own a 1.1 Saxo. I hope you didn't mean you could get any kind of performance gain with an induction kit or remap on it.

Plus fog lights = 20bhp gain

Not to mention that gains to be had from go faster stripes and an electric supercharger from Ebay....

graham22211 · 27th February 2012, 10:30

to ashley thanks for the sarcasm but if u read the post i did say i wasnt teaching anyone to suck eggs or words to that effect ,,,,,, i do own a 1.1i desire and id have to disagree i used induction kits and remaps for an example and did say other realated preformance parts a simple exhaust change would give u 10 % u could chip it theres lots of things but keep hurling abuse guys lololol i find it realy funny that people would disagree that u cant get more power out of a small engine if you cant ill eat my own man hood pmsl

graham22211 · 27th February 2012, 10:44

oh and i own a vectra sri 140 not just a 1.1 saxo at least this post got some reaction had fun reading it after i posted cheers lads no harm done ,,,,