Car seems fooked... - Saxperience

Sinque · 23rd March 2012, 18:44

Engine misfiring, eating petrol, bad idle, cutting out, blue/white smoke from exhaust, exhaust fumes stink of fuel, petrol/oil swirl in coolant, coolant coming back up out the resevior, spark plugs becoming completely black after brand new ones being put in after driving about 2 miles. I could probably think of more but I'm at my witts end.

It's had new plugs, new coil pack, new map sensor, new oil, new oil filter, new fuel filter, new lambda, cleaned icv, expensive fuel treatment ran through it and it's just getting worse.

Does it sound like hg, piston rings or burned valve?

The hg got changed about 6 months ago also...

Hating life right now haha.

Cheers.

Llardy · 23rd March 2012, 18:49

needs lowering and VTS wheels. once you've done that it run like a beaut

Sinque · 23rd March 2012, 19:02

I'll give that a go, cheers mate

Heftydanielson · 23rd March 2012, 19:19

so it's using a lot of oil/water, probably HG, they could go with in 100 miles or 100k.

Could be easier to get a newer, lower mile engine.

tarzan · 23rd March 2012, 19:26

get a compression test done mate. might help narrow down your search for the problem

adamspencer · 23rd March 2012, 19:52

get a new car pal.

Sinque · 23rd March 2012, 20:15

Gunna drop it at the garage for a day Monday and see what they diagnose. If its expensive I'll just drop a vtr into it and save the hassle. How much is labour usually for swapping an engine?

graham22211 · 23rd March 2012, 21:43

if theres oil swurling in your water its defo your head gasket so its a head off job and replace it i reckon.and you have more than likley cooked you valve stem oil seals too i would change them while your on.

Sinque · 23rd March 2012, 21:55

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Originally Posted by graham22211

if theres oil swurling in your water its defo your head gasket so its a head off job and replace it i reckon.and you have more than likley cooked you valve stem oil seals too i would change them while your on.

It just looks like a slight petrol mixture of colours on the surface of the coolant, like if you were to see it on a wet road. The coolant is crystal clear other than that :/

Looks like an expensive jobby either way...

MrJames · 23rd March 2012, 23:02

As it's been said....

Compression Test
Coolant sniffer test

It's possible there was a small amount of oil residue in the coolant after the HG was done if it's not losing coolant and the oil deposits aren't getting any worse and no water getting into the sump next steps would be...

Run an emissions test on it that'll quickly tell you if it's running rich which will cause a lot of the symptoms you have...

Get injectors flow tested make sure they aren't partially blocked and throwing out a bad spray could also get the fuel pressure checked to make sure there isn't too much pressure there...

Other than that check sensors are all in spec especially ones like the coolant temperate sensor only thing after that could possibly be either an ECU or wiring fault

adamspencer · 23rd March 2012, 23:03

exactly the reason why it'd probably best to just buy a new car, much less hassle in the long run (hopefully if you dont pick up a lemon)

Sinque · 23rd March 2012, 23:49

@MrJames

The coolant nor oil seems to be going down and I always thought that the coolant would be mis coloured due to the old head gasket failure also. It just seems to be heavily over fueling for whatever reason...

I'll just have to take it to the garage on Monday. I speak to the bloke often as he's told me everything to do to save me money and said bring it in Monday if problems persist as were both out of simple ideas and fixes so he will have a proper look then.

Hope for the best :/

Gandi699 · 24th March 2012, 05:10

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Originally Posted by adamspencer

exactly the reason why it'd probably best to just buy a new car, much less hassle in the long run (hopefully if you dont pick up a lemon)

So mechanical issues should by buying a new car? Idiot

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Sinque · 24th March 2012, 11:37

It ran like shit when I started it this morning but then ended up running spot on. Water and oil are fine but it's still backfiring...

Is it possible that the Lucas fuel treatment I ran through it recently is still in the system and getting blasted out..?

I unplugged the coolant temp sensor and the gauge stopped working win the warning light, I plugged it back in and it got the right temperature so is it alright or can it be only struggling to get low temperatures?

alroberts · 24th March 2012, 18:57

Perhaps he can't afford a new car- we're not all millionaires!! AND I never even got 5% off my tax- not rich enough !!

Sinque · 24th March 2012, 19:33

I cleaned the plugs, cleaned the lambda, there was a bolt loose on my manifold, cleaned the injectors as there was tiny bits of grit in them and now it runs like a brand new car lmao. It's never been so smooth! Productive weekend hurrah!

Compression test came back really good, was as though brand new. Good job I kept on trying rather than just getting a new car eh!

Until tomorrow when something else falls off as saxos do

adamspencer · 24th March 2012, 20:20

well with so many problems you gotta hope for a miracle havent you, and with so many expensive jobs possibly needing to be done, its a false economy to fix them if a new car is cheaper

Sinque · 24th March 2012, 20:25

Read my last post ^

Gandi699 · 24th March 2012, 21:03

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Originally Posted by adamspencer

well with so many problems you gotta hope for a miracle havent you, and with so many expensive jobs possibly needing to be done, its a false economy to fix them if a new car is cheaper

Well this issue was fixed for nothing, it's not about hoping for a miracle it's about getting stuck in, learning and fixing as you go, not throwing the towel in at the slightest problem like this one turned out to be.

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andy1weir · 24th March 2012, 21:19

sounds like you got lucky tbh, ive also done all the stuff youve done, i have all the same probs you had, and mines still runs like shit, fitted new clutch today so cleaned crankshaft sensor whiel i was it was full of clutch dust, but still runs like crap