Decent brake set up for my car - Saxperience

andyyy · 3rd February 2013, 16:34

Whats a decent brake setup for my car seen on here 406 , 307 gti etc etc

But what one will be best for me?

Iv got a 1.1 106 with VTR engine and the 1.1 break are crap really

I plan to get it cammed in the near future and probably more after that.

The wheels im on are team dynamic pro race 15" i know that there enough clearance for some decent size discs

So any thoughts please and a rough cost (not looking for the cheapest but also not ridiculous)

Also how much effort is it to disc up the backs just looks nicer imo

Bobo0907 · 3rd February 2013, 16:38

vtr, vts gti calipers with decent pads, discs and brake fluid.

Calipers expect about £20-30, pads and discs id be paying about £100 for something decent like mintex pads and brembo discs. Motul brake fluid £10 upwards.

For the rear, easiest to just change the whole axle.

Kirky · 3rd February 2013, 17:30

I'd personally go for 266 setup or 283 setup but others mite say different

Prickle^p · 3rd February 2013, 17:34

266 i went for and stops my VTS pretty well! pedal travel isnt as bad as people made out imo.

My set up is

OE Mintex disk/pads
Goodridge braided hoses on all 4 corners
AP brake fluid
standard master cylinder

I had this debate with Ross about a month ago lol, "unsprung weight" and all that jazz.

Down to personal pref etc i know

andyyy · 3rd February 2013, 18:21

do the 266 sqweal at all ? - think thats how you speel sqweal

and how much am i looking at to get a decent set ?

Kirky · 3rd February 2013, 18:23

Can sometimes get a full setup for round 100 posted. Depending on what the seller wants

andyyy · 3rd February 2013, 18:23

and yeahh i suppose if you get bigger discs its starts affecting acceleration ... slightly

Bobo0907 · 3rd February 2013, 18:44

Imo there is no need for 266 brakes on a road going saxo/106. The 247 bosch calipers are good enough. If people renewed their brake fluid, they would find that the brakes are not so spongy...

Prickle^p · 3rd February 2013, 18:48

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Originally Posted by andyyy

do the 266 sqweal at all ? - think thats how you speel sqweal

and how much am i looking at to get a decent set ?

Mine dont.

I've read the Brembo's are bad for it

andyyy · 3rd February 2013, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Bobo0907

Imo there is no need for 266 brakes on a road going saxo/106. The 247 bosch calipers are good enough. If people renewed their brake fluid, they would find that the brakes are not so spongy...

Ill have to have a look at the price difference ...

how would the 247 fill behind the wheel in comparison to 266 just thinking bigger discs will look nicer lol

griff_106 · 3rd February 2013, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Prickle

I've read the Brembo's are bad for it

Yeah they are - a mate has the 406 Brembo setup on his GTi and they do squeak a fair bit. Apparently braking with them is a bit like hitting a wall though haha.

To the OP - you'll probably get away with 247's from a GTi with master cylinder (and braided lines for better feel) as that's probably the most cost-effective way of doing things unless you can find a cheap set of 266's... as long as the car's not doing any hard track work or anything I can't see there being a problem with the GTi stoppers

andyyy · 4th February 2013, 20:55

alright thanks guys ill have a look at the 247's and 266 would i have to change the master cylinder with bot setups?

swampy · 4th February 2013, 21:01

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Originally Posted by andyyy

alright thanks guys ill have a look at the 247's and 266 would i have to change the master cylinder with bot setups?

Down to personal preference

Some people like the long pedal travel but others don't.

andyyy · 4th February 2013, 21:13

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Originally Posted by swampy

Down to personal preference

Some people like the long pedal travel but others don't.

not a massive fan of it to be honest ,too much atm with the 1.1 brakes and i only bled them a few months ago...

So the only options in master cylinders are off a GTI/VTS?

andyyy · 4th February 2013, 21:35

Okay so i have a look and decided to go with 266 id rather have them there incase i ever need them.

so for £90 i can get

Used calipers and carriers

New Brembo discs

New Mintex Pads

Does this seem reasonable or rip off?

devilsadvocate · 5th February 2013, 13:12

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Originally Posted by andyyy

Okay so i have a look and decided to go with 266 id rather have them there incase i ever need them.

so for £90 i can get

Used calipers and carriers

New Brembo discs

New Mintex Pads

Does this seem reasonable or rip off?

Which pads?

andyyy · 6th February 2013, 09:20

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

Which pads?

These pads

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290677444908

These Discs

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330568095970

These calipers - come with carriers - iv ordered them

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271095596513

This master cylinder - also ordered 23mm 4 port one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181069526809

And that completes a 266mm brake setup i believe ...

Could someone please tell me if the pads and discs are decent or shite

andyyy · 6th February 2013, 17:23

piggy123 · 7th February 2013, 00:01

Buy my high spec 4 pots if you want some mans brakes

andyyy · 7th February 2013, 00:16

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Originally Posted by piggy123

Buy my high spec 4 pots if you want some mans brakes

Ill see how these cope at first, but i do want some that you just touch the brake pedal it feels rock hard and stops you like there not working hard at all , like BMW brakes feel.