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2nd June 2007, 13:58
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rear strut braces
now lads i no saxos have rear torsion bars but you msut be able to get at least a rear upper.
i can only seem to find front upper and lower none for the rear any help thanks guys ??
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2nd June 2007, 14:03
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as far as i know.........No you cant
just rebuild the beam with new bearings and poly bushed and it should handle perfectly
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2nd June 2007, 14:04
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yeah you can get one someone found one on ebay no so long ago however it will do sweet fa
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2nd June 2007, 14:05
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the only thing about sturting the front and not the back is the fact it can bend the chassis over time  o well cars arnt made to last for ever  thanks guys.
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2nd June 2007, 14:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sim69er
yeah you can get one someone found one on ebay no so long ago however it will do sweet fa
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^ seeing as saxos dont have rear struts, how does that work?
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2nd June 2007, 14:08
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i as said its a pointless thing to do. how can u put a rear strut brace somewhere there isnt a strut???
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2nd June 2007, 14:08
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how do you intend on having a rear upper when there are no struts to attach it to.
the whole point of a strut brace is to prevent the individual turrets twisting away from each other etc...
lol.
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2nd June 2007, 14:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
the only thing about sturting the front and not the back is the fact it can bend the chassis over time
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thats the first ive ever heard of it!
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2nd June 2007, 14:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doubledavies
^ seeing as saxos dont have rear struts, how does that work?
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yer im stupid, never fort of that and btw i think after that i might just weld a nice peice of 2 inch pipe between each side someware near a strengthen pillar or such
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2nd June 2007, 14:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
yer im stupid, never fort of that and btw i think after that i might just weld a nice peice of 2 inch pipe between each side someware near a strengthen pillar or such |
strengthen the pillar?
there is not one! you will just be welding to the inner arch! lol!
the suspension is not attached there, the rear beam mounts under the car!
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2nd June 2007, 14:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85
thats the first ive ever heard of it!
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ive heard of it many times takes a while but can happen
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2nd June 2007, 14:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsafastworld85
strengthen the pillar?
there is not one! you will just be welding to the inner arch! lol!
the suspension is not attached there, the rear beam mounts under the car!
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must b sumware in the back to strenghen it hmmmm have to leave to the axle and cage to do all the work in that case 
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2nd June 2007, 14:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
ive heard of it many times takes a while but can happen |
on what cars though? remeber not all cars are the same, if they have rear struts then of corse you will cause problems, but the fact is the rear beam mounts under the car so your not adding extra stress under the chassis!
just seem to have to strange theorys so far like green filters being crap.
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2nd June 2007, 14:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
yer im stupid, never fort of that and btw i think after that i might just weld a nice peice of 2 inch pipe between each side someware near a strengthen pillar or such |
I wouldnt!
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2nd June 2007, 14:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MiniGibbo
must b sumware in the back to strenghen it hmmmm have to leave to the axle and cage to do all the work in that case |
there are two bolt holes in the rear end of the car, the rear beam bolts here, the rear beam is effectively an independant suspension system so adding bars to the shell will not do anything to the rear end other than increase the shells rigidity. not the suspension system itself.
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2nd June 2007, 14:15
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i have seen a saxo with a strengthing bar between the b-pillars though. dont know what difference it would make
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2nd June 2007, 14:16
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ive seen someone just weld a bit of bar with plates on the end to the rear archs inside the car but you cant buy them for saxos thats for sure
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2nd June 2007, 14:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gibs-rallye
i have seen a saxo with a strengthing bar between the b-pillars though. dont know what difference it would make
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would reduce body flex if anything!
just seam weld the entire car if you really want to g that far!
a rear beam rebuild with decent bushes and bearings is far better that welding a bit of pipe here and there and using rear strut braces (which dont exist)
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2nd June 2007, 14:18
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seen it on ssc
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2nd June 2007, 14:19
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strenghening the shell wouldnt be to bad, ive never had a car with rear torrion bar b4 im to used to 4 struts and springs ,
and as for green filters  honest this is the first time ive ever seen people rate them so much but im defently going to try them becuase you lads seem to no ur saxos's
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