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14th December 2007, 14:51
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Wilder cams directly related to oil consumption?
Hey chaps.
I change the oil in my 106 roughly every 4-5k. I find even after just 1.5k, I'm already having to top up the oil. I can't use a 4ltr carton of oil for more than 4-5k, as even after a top up I would be running low on oil.
I'm pretty sure the oil consumption has been worse since I've been running 708s, but I couldn't prove it. I installed the 708s @ about 24k, the engine is now @ 50k. Well looked after, but seems to munch oil like there's no tomorrow. There's nothing obviously dripping / leaking, and looking at the exhaust fumes, it doesn't appear to be burning it. So where's it going?!? 
Anyone else noticed more oil consumption since changing to higher than standard lift cams?
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14th December 2007, 15:17
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I cant see how it would be directly related, but my theory (maybe lol) is that the cams make the engine hotter and some of the oil turns into vapour? But that would then mean that your boiling oil so my theory is crap haha.
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14th December 2007, 15:19
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If you are spending more time at high revs, could be burning off the oil that way?
Are you running breathers or a catch tank?
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14th December 2007, 15:26
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Mine has started to use a tiny amount running unmapped
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14th December 2007, 16:31
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i always had to top mine up and i had it from 19k till it was at 80k.
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14th December 2007, 16:33
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It’s coming through the threads on the spark plugs?  Or did you solve that mystery?
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14th December 2007, 16:50
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lol its either leakin or burning. do you boot your car a lot. if so thats prob y. how many litres would u say u use every 1000miles
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14th December 2007, 16:53
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It shouldn't use up oil. I've used far wilder cams than 708s and not used a drop
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14th December 2007, 17:52
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I spend a lot of time in high revs, of course! 
Quick - I don't have a catch, I used to have a home-made one, but got rid of it. It NEVER filled up with anything. Bone dry...
Joe, didn't see the last entry on that thread? I thought you'd disappeared mate. haha
Williams, ours may be similar then...
205, yeah boot it all the time. The best way I can describe the usage is this I guess. I fill it up with just over 3ltrs which puts the oil level a smidge (if that really) over the max oil amount. I've now done about 1300 miles since the oil changem and it's already sitting just below midway of the min and max mark on the dipstick. I will have to top it up shortly...
Kam, I'm worried! lol
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14th December 2007, 18:09
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I never saw the last post either! I went to America for a while I’m back now though!
There’s nothing I can think of that could relate different cams using more oil?
Unless it’s like what Colin said? But it should be running at the same temperature.
Thought that maybe the bigger lobes are splashing it about more and maybe splashing it through the breather? The catch tank would have some oil in if it was that though!
I still recon its the valve stem oil seals.
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14th December 2007, 18:23
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spose if your at higher revs more,
more pressure? kicking out a bit more into the breather system??
this is what i found any way
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14th December 2007, 18:23
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If I was burnnig oil, wouldn't it be noticeable? Or is it possible that's it's a small amount, so I can't notice it from the fumes?
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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14th December 2007, 18:59
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you would notice burnng oil mate. hve a look under the car for some sort of damp patch as it is all i can think of, check the air filter to make sure it is dry
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14th December 2007, 19:14
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I'm definately getting a small amount coming out from the around the cam cover area. Left hand side I think, as there's always a smidge of oil dripping down near the alternator.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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14th December 2007, 22:59
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mine started to use loads when i fitted 708s and revved to 8k.
used absolutely none at 60k on std cams, with the 708s it used about a litre every few thousand miles, and still does now with std cams again. rogered my valve stem seals it seems, nothing in my catch tank, just a bit of smoke from the exhaust when revving hard and especially when changing gear. my new head should sort that out
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15th December 2007, 00:12
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Interesting! I've got a fairly new head, as it's a big valve one, but that certainly hasn't made any difference with the oil munching. I don't see any smoke from mine... Surely my stem seals would be mint with the new head? Thanks for the input 
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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16th December 2007, 00:41
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Mine munches oil like big momma on the munchies
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16th December 2007, 00:50
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The only oil mine uses is what it catches in the catch tank, and thats only on track, since the summer i've relocated the oil cooler rad which is keeping temps alot lower than before (even at cruise speeds on Mway)
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16th December 2007, 01:11
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i was going to put some 708's in but not sure now.
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16th December 2007, 01:15
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i've got an oil cooler to go on mine so i should be ok then?
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