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Old 7th September 2008, 12:37   #1
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hey people..was wondering for a rough price on GOOD forged pistons and rods has i have just herd that i can only buy 16v pistons and rods for my 8v Is this true and thanx for any advice
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Old 7th September 2008, 12:40   #2
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Can only get pistons for a 16v yeh but there the same size its down to the pin set up..

try gmc i got my rods and pistons from there.. Any reason why your after rods as well?
A set of oe vts rods and some forged pistons will be fine unless your running high revs..
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yes mate, higher boost...didnt know i could use vts rods, and yea a little higher revs and more boost,
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you dont need rods unless your raising the rev limit..standard vts will be fine under 8000rpm
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I was running around 200 bhp from oe rods and others have ran 250@ wheels on them..

To run the forged pistons in a 8v you need to use 16v rods and pistons as far as i know.
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220@wheels on standard rods here
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but i want something like 300bhp atw lol, and have 3 switchable maps for high low boost but i may use standard vts rods, but what do u mean by oe rods? And where could i get some from? And roughly how much?

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but i want something like 300bhp atw lol, and have 3 switchable maps for high low boost but i may use standard vts rods, but what do u mean by oe rods? And where could i get some from? And roughly how much? Thanx
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OE meand original equipment ie standard, i had 200lbs/ft on standard rods(they had been shot peened, there now in a 300bhp supercharged 106)
the only reason im useing forged rods with 7k revlimit is 30psi of boost and 200bhp nitrous
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OE meand original equipment ie standard, i had 200lbs/ft on standard rods(they had been shot peened, there now in a 300bhp supercharged 106)
the only reason im useing forged rods with 7k revlimit is 30psi of boost and 200bhp nitrous
What power are you running?

200ft'lbs of torque isn't that great, and surely you might as well put some aftermarket rods in for extra insurance if your going to rebuild the engine to get them shot peened anyway?
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Get the rods shot peened mate
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What power are you running?

200ft'lbs of torque isn't that great, and surely you might as well put some aftermarket rods in for extra insurance if your going to rebuild the engine to get them shot peened anyway?
hopefully be about 400bhp+ +200 bhp nitrous

200lbs/ft isnt bad for a home made turbo kit with a T25, look at the torque figures the 16v turbos make you will be suprised

the reson behind useing shot peened OE rods is that you can get a second hand set for about £100 or new for about £300, then its about £40 to shot peen them or its £700 for a forged set

like i say i only changed mine as i didnt want to try OE ones with 500lbs/ft+
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hopefully be about 400bhp+ +200 bhp nitrous

200lbs/ft isnt bad for a home made turbo kit with a T25, look at the torque figures the 16v turbos make you will be suprised

the reson behind useing shot peened OE rods is that you can get a second hand set for about £100 or new for about £300, then its about £40 to shot peen them or its £700 for a forged set

like i say i only changed mine as i didnt want to try OE ones with 500lbs/ft+
But forged Rods aren't 700, more like the £300+40 for a new set.

Surely you won't be 500ft/lbs+ with 600bhp on a 1.6 engine???
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But forged Rods aren't 700, more like the £300+40 for a new set.

Surely you won't be 500ft/lbs+ with 600bhp on a 1.6 engine???
most decent forged rods are £4-500+vat

the torque on a turbo 8v is more than the bhp so with 5-600bhp the torque will be high

there are a few 16v with 400bhp with smaller turbos and lower comp
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