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21st August 2009, 14:01
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Which is lighter... VTS alloys or Rallye Steels
i've heard rallye steels are pretty heavy
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21st August 2009, 14:01
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Ide say vts rims.........
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21st August 2009, 14:03
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VTS wheels are very heavy. Steelies will be lighter imo.
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21st August 2009, 14:04
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does it matter much?
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some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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21st August 2009, 14:05
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will be the steelies......thats why they have them on iirc
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21st August 2009, 14:10
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does it matter much?
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depends how much it'll effect acceleration
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21st August 2009, 14:12
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depends how much it'll effect acceleration
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if its going to be used for light race use, a steelie isnt a good wheel choice though, doesnt matter how fast you accelerate when the wheels stop air getting to the brakes  over the course of a track section, fade would be a lot higher due to lack of cooling
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some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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21st August 2009, 14:13
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depends how much it'll effect acceleration
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Just strip everything out your car!!  then it wil be lighter 
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21st August 2009, 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashleyp
if its going to be used for light race use, a steelie isnt a good wheel choice though, doesnt matter how fast you accelerate when the wheels stop air getting to the brakes  over the course of a track section, fade would be a lot higher due to lack of cooling
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so the best choice would be vts wheels?
i thought rallye wheels had the diamond cut outs to cool the breaks
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21st August 2009, 14:15
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so the best choice would be vts wheels?
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not the "best" choice
but maybe a "better" choice, i dont think S wheels are amazing for getting air to the brakes, but will be better than steelies
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some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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21st August 2009, 20:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashleyp
if its going to be used for light race use, a steelie isnt a good wheel choice though, doesnt matter how fast you accelerate when the wheels stop air getting to the brakes  over the course of a track section, fade would be a lot higher due to lack of cooling
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you could fit brake ducts
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21st August 2009, 20:47
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Lighter wheels = less unsprung weight = less strain on brakes!
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21st August 2009, 20:51
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Team Dynamics 1.2 are the lightest aren't they?
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21st August 2009, 20:54
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Team Dynamics 1.2 are the lightest aren't they?
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nope
custom magnesium wheels are the lightest
but the lighest market alloy are the OZ superL's although theyre not produced now
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some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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21st August 2009, 20:57
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nope
custom magnesium wheels are the lightest
but the lighest market alloy are the OZ superL's although theyre not produced now
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I was meaning a reasonable affordable price
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21st August 2009, 21:01
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I was meaning a reasonable affordable price 
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2nd hand set of superL's could work out cheaper than some TD's
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some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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21st August 2009, 21:05
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OZ ultraleggeras i think are now the lightest without going to custom magnesium wheels. As already said VTS wheels aren't the best for cooling the brakes, but they are heavier than the rallye steelies. It doesn't really affect the acceleration so that you really notice that much, but i did notice an improvement in handling when i changed from VTS wheels to the OZ ultraleggeras.
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21st August 2009, 21:41
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im sure theres some c5 steelies what could be magnesium or alike and there super lightweight.
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22nd August 2009, 22:50
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VTS Alloys are heeeeeeeaaavy!!
Wouldnt fit either to be honest.
Steelies are lighter by a long shot but iirc only 6j or even 6.5j (would rather fit one of the 3 below which are 7j hence more tyre on the road  and with the steelies theres not alot of air to pass through to the brakes
TD's 1.2's
Oz Super L's
OZ Ultra L's
Are the most reasonable options
On Paper the Super L's are lightest of the 3 by about 0.2kg BUT i believe most people have to fit 20mm spacers and have 2 sets of wheel bolts (spacer to hub, wheel to spacer) in order to get them to fit which you dont need with the Ultra L's so the Ultras probably end up a tad lighter overall
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23rd August 2009, 11:14
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There's only one set of wheel bolts with my SuperLs and the spacers are made of alloy so weigh precisely fark all lol UltraLs look a bit ghey in comparison!
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