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21st November 2011, 19:37
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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dyno print outs
looking through the history of my car i found another dyno print out from the owner which quotes 157bhp but i have another which is in the mid 140's they was both on the same day from dastek (westec performance) dunno who they are lol... i dunno which one to believe
the cars spec:
Full piper exhurst system with magnax backbox
sports cat
4-2-1which has been heat wrapped
pipercross panel filter
ph3 cams
remapped
peugeot 306 gti6 front and rear disc brakes
20mm hubsentric spacers front and rear
toyo proxes
lowered 50mm all round on apex shocks and spax springs
would you really be able to get 157bhp just from them mods?
the car has only done 47,000 miles too
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21st November 2011, 19:45
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Birtley
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Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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its probably been cammed, then taken into a dastek dealer, or someone with dastek rollers for a remap and cam timing, this will be your second result 
it will probs be less then the result you got, but somewhere near
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21st November 2011, 19:45
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Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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saxp crash double post fail 
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21st November 2011, 19:50
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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guess there will only be one way to find out.. ill get it dyno'd again this was done back in 2009 lol... im wondering if ild get better results with a cda filter, than just the pipercross panel filter
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21st November 2011, 21:52
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: west mids (dudley)
Posts: 1,201
Car(s): cammed 106 flatty
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You could throw some bodies on there mate, seeing as its got most n/a mods. That would give you a nice power gain also.
I'd think that would make 156 mate, good power if it does
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22nd November 2011, 00:07
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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yeah bodies would be great, its just having the money to get it done the car pulls well with what it has but you know how it is, you always want a bit more lol... ha that turbo'd vtr of yours must fly!
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22nd November 2011, 00:37
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: west mids (dudley)
Posts: 1,201
Car(s): cammed 106 flatty
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Haha yes mate it does. Yea having the bug does make our wallet alot lighter.
I'm after the 200bhp barrier, so I'm changing my fueling to standalone if i can.
It's not about raw power though, I'm currently trying to improve how it drives/looks/feels.
I bet your 106 shifts though?
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22nd November 2011, 10:08
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
Posts: 10,581
Car(s): BMW 5x M50d.
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37bhp from cams and exhaust filter? Really? 30% power hike? Come on guys... 
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22nd November 2011, 13:55
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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So you think its wrong? or maybe had more work done than i know about? i have the print out's so its not like the old owner has lied to me... dont get me wrong 37bhp is a very big gain... is there any way i can upload the dyno print out??
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22nd November 2011, 13:59
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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Im not trying to brag saying wow look at the power my car has, i want your input as to tell me if its possible from them mods and if its worth getting it dyno'd again to see if these claims are true...
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22nd November 2011, 14:22
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
Posts: 10,581
Car(s): BMW 5x M50d.
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No George, I don't think you're lying mate or the previous owner. I just think the dyno operators are generally full of shit, country wide. There's a select few who speak the truth, but they ALL want you to go away happy so you come back again the next time. The easiest way to do that is to fudge the numbers so it looks like the work they did has paid off...
For example, I took my (otherwise standard) gti to PTS in Luton about 7 years ago now (renown for being full of shit, but I didn't know that at the time) - with an exhaust and airfilter it made 143bhp...
As you're in Ashford, you're only about 45 minutes away from a dyno I trust explicitly - www.tracknroad.com . It's known as a heartbreaker dyno as if you've been bamboozled previously, prepare to cry as they speeketh the truth 
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22nd November 2011, 14:31
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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i'll take it up there, all i want is real figures tbh if it comes back with around 140ish give or take i'll be happy...
At the end of the day its not me thats paid for the cams and other mods so wont break my heart  the car still pulls very very well so im happy plus the whole point of a vts is that it handles great.. thanks for the link though mate!
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22nd November 2011, 14:36
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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they dont have prices on the website, silly question but how much would it set me back... its not to far away either which is good. they might cringe at a saxo after seeing some the cars they have tested on the website lol
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22nd November 2011, 14:39
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
Posts: 10,581
Car(s): BMW 5x M50d.
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nah they do all the mapping on my car - sound lads. Deal with all sorts of stuff from 35bhp 1 litre mini's to 800bhp monsters.
Power runs are generally about £50 ish.
The best thing to do (with any dyno really) is to pick one and stay with it - then you can see improvements. But get an accurate base figure to start with.
Phone Steve Greenald - 07774 773824 - tell him you got his number from me, and he'll sort you out for sure. They're busy down there so expect it to be a week or so before they can fit it in even for a power run.
Enjoy.
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22nd November 2011, 14:44
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ashford kent
Posts: 45
Car(s): 03 plate vts
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cheers man, it wont be till i get paid anyway but i'll give them a call... big help though, my mate wants his 172 dyno'd too so i'll go with him.. £50 isnt too bad either
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22nd November 2011, 14:45
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
Posts: 10,581
Car(s): BMW 5x M50d.
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well if you give me a heads up (drop me a PM) I'll pop down and meet you - I'm down Steve's a few times a month normally. Got my engine to drop round there in the next couple of weeks myself actually.
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