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7th December 2011, 18:59
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car has suddenly became really loud and vibrating
yet another problem with my reliable saxo, was driving up to my house today, and suddenly the car started vibrating violently, enough to make my cds impossible to play because its shaking, and the car is really loud in the cabin, the vibration is on the steering wheel, pedals, seat, and pretty much all the interior, checked underneath the car and there is two wee holes where the down pipe meets the catalytic converter, could this make the car shake that bad and sound so loud?? outside the car it sounds normal as before but inside its ridiculous. Even if it was the exhaust i didnt think it would make a difference that quick, i thought it was gradual, anyone else know?
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7th December 2011, 19:05
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or could be engine mounts but where are they?
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7th December 2011, 19:06
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Your upper engine mount bolt has snapped.
You need to remove ALL the engine mountings from engine to chassis to get to the snapped bolt. Basically the engines dropped on the drivers side.
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7th December 2011, 19:14
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is it safe to drive? till i get it to a garage
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7th December 2011, 19:16
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I'm never gonna say 'yes' to anything thats not working properly. But if you're wanting to know if the engine will fall out? No, it won't.
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7th December 2011, 19:18
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so if i took it to a garage how much would u think it would cost, and would it take long, reason i ask is id rather do it myself it was to dear as just got new clutch and skint?
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7th December 2011, 19:21
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Half an hours work. They need to have a decent bolt to fix it with.
You can do it yourself with a few basic tools. The worst being a T50 (i think) torx bit. Getting the remaining snapped bolt out of the mount might be a mission but they usually unscrew quite easily if you have a drill bit that runs in reverse. Need a jack and peice of wood to support engine too.
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7th December 2011, 19:40
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where are the mounts anyway? are they visible from the engine bay? or at the least the one you mentioned?
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7th December 2011, 20:10
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bumpings
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7th December 2011, 20:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DundeeUnited
where are the mounts anyway? are they visible from the engine bay? or at the least the one you mentioned?
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I reckon Kris has hit the nail on the head, it will be the engine mount to the right of the ECU.
Looking at the engine bay, locate the ECU (left of the bay)
To the right of this will be the engine mount.
It comes in two parts, bolted together and the bold can snap which causes vibrations through the chassis.
I drove my old vtr with a snapped bold for weeks but it depends where the break it so I wouldn't advise it.
Get a second hand one off ebay or here and change it, 30 minute job max with a jack (to support the engine) and a socket set
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7th December 2011, 20:27
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good advice
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7th December 2011, 20:27
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upper engine mount is on drivers side under the ecu tray.
once ecu tray has been removed, theres 4x torx bolts (T50) towards back of the engine, and 2x 13mm nuts on the actual mount. these all need to be removed, obviously put a trolley jack under that side of the engine.
its really easy to do, like KrisB has said...it will take about half hour 
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7th December 2011, 20:33
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i checked the engine mount but looks fine to me doesnt move or nothing, the bit i can see is silver and in a diamond shape, with 3 bolts that i can see, and looks like theres on under ecu, could it still be this mount as it may be underneath what i can see?
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7th December 2011, 20:35
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You won't physically see anything iirc. Just change the upper mount and feel the difference. It happened to mine too.
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7th December 2011, 20:55
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As above, you may not feel it because the bolt will still be holding the two parts together.
Remove it to check anyway, it's an easy enough job and a common failure on saxo's
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7th December 2011, 20:55
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wen i put my hand at the back of the ecu i can feel the thread, and the bolt is at the top so is defo that, will i have to replace the whole thing or just the bolt
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7th December 2011, 20:56
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and how do you remove the ecu lol
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7th December 2011, 20:58
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Think you should it to a garage chap. It's a 10 min job.
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7th December 2011, 21:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DundeeUnited
and how do you remove the ecu lol
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unplug it, BUT only if your ecu has been unlocked , if you're not sure get a garage to do the mount for you
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7th December 2011, 22:12
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how do u know if its been unlocked? and can u just take the ecu tray off without taking the actual ecu thing out?
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