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27th January 2013, 22:08
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s2 rallye engine in mk1 vtr??
basically do the s2 rallye engines fit in the mk1 vtr without changing anything? just a simple swap ? or do you need loom ecu blah blah? fanksss
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27th January 2013, 22:10
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Will fit straight off, but youll need the ecu as well. I have an unlocked rallye ecu for sale btw.
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27th January 2013, 22:17
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is it wort it doing because isnt it like a 15bhp gain over the std mk1 vtr? will the inlet fit and the coilpack off my vtr ? on the s2 lump if the ecu is all i need i might give it a whirl what you wanting on the ecu?
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27th January 2013, 22:26
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45 for the ecu. The manifolds off your vtr engine will fit yeah :-)
15bhp difference, more revs. And the insurance wouldnt know, if youre so inclined lol
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28th January 2013, 12:31
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you dont technically need the ecu, it'll run on VTR stuff but fitting the s2 ecu would be nice. Better management system/map.
The ECU from a s2 isnt going to fit a mk1 vtr loom though, you'll need an s2 loom and splice it in the body loom on the vtr
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28th January 2013, 13:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandi699
you dont technically need the ecu, it'll run on VTR stuff but fitting the s2 ecu would be nice. Better management system/map.
The ECU from a s2 isnt going to fit a mk1 vtr loom though, you'll need an s2 loom and splice it in the body loom on the vtr
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ant going through all that trouble if i can run my ecu ? will get it all mapped up after , is the s2 engines coilpack ?
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28th January 2013, 13:24
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Waste of time and effort
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28th January 2013, 13:44
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Waste of time and effort
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why tho my engine is burning a litre and a half of oil a week , im dooing it because i need a new engine not because i want to, and was going to do it instead of putting a mk1 vtr engine back in
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28th January 2013, 14:17
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You do need the ecu as the map will be away to fuck on a vtr, and rallye peak power is past the vtr rev limiter lol
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28th January 2013, 16:01
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Peak power is at 6200 rpm on the 1600 s2, so inside the VTR rev limiter but only just. If you can though, run the ECU for the job or have the car mapped. I intend to at some point
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28th January 2013, 16:58
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Originally Posted by burgin2011
why tho my engine is burning a litre and a half of oil a week , im dooing it because i need a new engine not because i want to, and was going to do it instead of putting a mk1 vtr engine back in
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To get the best out of that engine you'll need to the ecu.. The ecu runs a difference ecu plug to a vtr loom, so you'll need the rallye loom, which runs a different chassis side plug to a vtr
Which means you'll need it re plugged
If you want more power, bang a vts engine in, Least it'll be something you'll actually notice on the road
If you're happy With the power you have then just fit the vtr engine.. Cheap and easy
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28th January 2013, 19:04
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Thing is though an s2 rallye engine isn't going to be any worse than a standard vtr engine if you fit one, but don't be expecting huge gains from it
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28th January 2013, 19:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
To get the best out of that engine you'll need to the ecu.. The ecu runs a difference ecu plug to a vtr loom, so you'll need the rallye loom, which runs a different chassis side plug to a vtr
Which means you'll need it re plugged
If you want more power, bang a vts engine in, Least it'll be something you'll actually notice on the road
If you're happy With the power you have then just fit the vtr engine.. Cheap and easy
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sticking with a vtr engine i forgot the chassis plugs are different on pugs , cba with vts engine conversion as i had one and changed my mind when my vtr kept up with one ! my rallye inlet should be going on this week if i recive it in time what are these like on the vtrs performance gain wise i no they soud awsome with them on
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28th January 2013, 20:43
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that VTS must have had a serious problem if a VTR kept up with it.
And probably no gain at all, it'll just sound a bit better
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28th January 2013, 23:33
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I thought you were getting a 16v fitted mate?
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29th January 2013, 00:48
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Originally Posted by Tom5190
I thought you were getting a 16v fitted mate?
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gave up with it pal, had every single last thing to do it but as i started dooing more things to the R i just prefered the well it felt to a 16v so i sold it to jamie281093 on here!
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29th January 2013, 00:50
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ah ok should of just out it in you would have got more than 15hp then!
P.S they dont fit straight in if you use the correct ecu & loom as said above
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