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19th March 2007, 23:41
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VTS/106 gti vs Bravo HGT
Right guys just wondering what do you think would be quicker around a track as my mate has a Bravo 2.0 20v Hgt and i'm planning on getting a 106 gti!
What we're planning to do is go to a track day when we can both afford it and see how we get on, at the moment i have a VTR and to be honest on B roads i can keep up quite well with it but obviously he pulls away on a nice straight!
I've been looking at the 0-60, 0-100 and 60-100 times and to be honest the GTI and HGT are quite even but in the real world on a track what do you think would come out on top?
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19th March 2007, 23:54
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Saxo/106 would handle better and would be just as quick if not quicker.
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20th March 2007, 11:46
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i would say that the 106 gti would slam the bravo on the track, its lighter for starters by around 200kgs so it would out handle it anyway and i would say that its quicker to in a straight line to but not by a lot
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20th March 2007, 11:46
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VTS/GTI hands down
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20th March 2007, 12:04
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I would say saxo/106 as fiat don't seem to have the best reliability record.
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20th March 2007, 12:05
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Fix
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20th March 2007, 12:14
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the fiat would,but expect a saxo gti positive response as it is a citroen website your on lol
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20th March 2007, 12:17
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.......R4T, and do you think for example a Redtop 2l Corsa in a GSi shell w/ GSi suspension would outdo a VTS on a track?
because if you do, i think you need to reconsider.
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20th March 2007, 12:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulless
.......R4T, and do you think for example a Redtop 2l Corsa in a GSi shell w/ GSi suspension would outdo a VTS on a track?
because if you do, i think you need to reconsider.
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hes using standard suspension is he oops, i hope u upgraded the brake discs at least.
thats crazy if u havent what else havent u done to it after the conversion
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20th March 2007, 12:40
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My moneys on the bravo Maximum Speed 132 Acceleration (0-60) 7.9secs whereas the GTI is Maximum Speed 127 Acceleration (0-60) 8.7 secs
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20th March 2007, 12:42
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where are you getting 0-60 of 8.7 seconds?
also, who does 120mph + on a track in a Fiat or citroen?
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20th March 2007, 12:48
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Quote:
also, who does 120mph + on a track in a Fiat or citroen?
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The test drivers
The specs are listed on wisebuyers, http://www.wisebuyers.co.uk/motoring...3%29/PE003160/
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20th March 2007, 12:50
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The saxo/106 will handle loads better and will be alot lighter, therefore the saxo/106 would win.
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20th March 2007, 12:54
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power/weight ratio guys.. think about it.
Last edited by James; 20th March 2007 at 13:10.
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20th March 2007, 12:58
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it works out similar gti is 126
bravo 130bhp per tonne , approx i dunno if i worked it out right.
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20th March 2007, 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by makaveli144
GTI Acceleration (0-60) 8.7 secs
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WTF!!!!!
best way to find out is to go do!!!!
i did a sprint against my mate in a 2.0 turbo zaffira 200bhp standard
kept up from start but over took him
power/weight ratio all the time
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20th March 2007, 13:18
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.......he said round a track,
not sure what track youve looked at, but im sure the original thread maker didnt mean the high speed ring outta Gran Turismo bud
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20th March 2007, 19:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulless
.......he said round a track,
not sure what track youve looked at, but im sure the original thread maker didnt mean the high speed ring outta Gran Turismo bud
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No i certainly didn't mean high speed ring, lol!
We are thinking more along the lines of castle coombe as we've heard its a great day there!
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20th March 2007, 19:24
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Who's fucking Tony? its Fix it again tomorrow!!!
That has a much wider appeal.......
Anyway the Bravo is abit lardy and not one I'd go for if you want some fast fiat action its the mk1 GT Punto or Coupe 20vt....
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20th March 2007, 19:29
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gti/vts no problem, 0-60 in 8.7 i dont think so matey, all these cars that are supposed to be just as quick or quicker just dont stand a chance this is what i have noticed through prvious experience's.
my summary= gti/vts would kick ass
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