Second fuel pump wiring - Saxperience

robster247 · 24th April 2016, 18:55

Evening guys. Anybody know which wires I need to splice into to get my Bosch 044 pump working. I've got these colours on the plug for the standard pump

Blue
Pinky brown
Green
Yellow

Thanks

charlie2 · 25th April 2016, 13:13

Did it on mine a couple of years ago but can't remember. Look at the wiring diagram,that's what I did.

axsaxoman · 25th April 2016, 14:39

hope you using a relay --wiring won,t like taking current from both pumps
just get a meter and try which wire becomes live when you turn on ignition --then goes off until you crank over the engine --thats the fuel pump feed --use that to work your relay and run seperate feed to the relay as well to power the pump when relay pulled in

charlie2 · 25th April 2016, 15:23

Nope,no relay.never thought of that to be honest.if it stops working I will do it but working fine at mo

axsaxoman · 25th April 2016, 16:21

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Originally Posted by charlie2

Nope,no relay.never thought of that to be honest.if it stops working I will do it but working fine at mo

so when it melts the wiring loom into one lump --you will fix it then ?

stevo67 · 25th April 2016, 17:33

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Originally Posted by axsaxoman

so when it melts the wiring loom into one lump --you will fix it then ?

Awaits the thread entitled my saxo caught fire.

charlie2 · 25th April 2016, 20:04

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Originally Posted by stevo67

Awaits the thread entitled my saxo caught fire.

Nothing in it to catch fire!.got an extinguisher in though

slammed106 · 25th April 2016, 16:48

044s pull a fair ol chunk of amps.. piggy backing them straight into the standard harness is sketchy...

charlie2 · 25th April 2016, 17:32

To be fair it's not an 044 pump,lot less powerful.not doing much mileage either.if it melts the wiring then yes I will do it but would think the fuse would blow first if the ampage was too great as it's all standard ratings.

robster247 · 25th April 2016, 18:58

I've spent far too much time on the car to watch it go up in flames due to skimping on some dodgy wiring.

I can't crank the car over as I'm sending my loom to sandy to get a dta wired in . Any other suggestions?

axsaxoman · 26th April 2016, 08:33

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Originally Posted by robster247

I've spent far too much time on the car to watch it go up in flames due to skimping on some dodgy wiring.

I can't crank the car over as I'm sending my loom to sandy to get a dta wired in . Any other suggestions?

simple tell sandy and he will leave you a wire to connect relay too
--why would sandy not be your first man to ask as he is doing your loom -??
-no harm to anybody --but why ask a load of ameatuers when you are already using a professional ?

stevo67 · 26th April 2016, 20:07

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Originally Posted by axsaxoman

simple tell sandy and he will leave you a wire to connect relay too
--why would sandy not be your first man to ask as he is doing your loom -??
-no harm to anybody --but why ask a load of ameatuers when you are already using a professional ?

So in your opinion we're all amateurs?

charlie2 · 27th April 2016, 06:59

I think that's the idea,mind apparently my car is going to set on fire!.so I'm an amateur and an arsonist!

Stissy · 27th April 2016, 12:39

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So in your opinion we're all amateurs?

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Originally Posted by axsaxoman

has anybody else given the man the CORRECT way to do it ?
it more the fact that he is already entrusting his loom to sandy a professional --so why not ask him the way to do it --as he would want it to be wired the correct way if connected to his loom .
amateurs? --well if you going to double or treble the current on std wiring and think that is ok hard wired in -- then YES

and GMC Motorsport just lost all of their business from Saxp members.

Shadowslayerzz · 27th April 2016, 07:52

I think ax is being a bit fucking rude really

axsaxoman · 27th April 2016, 12:17

has anybody else given the man the CORRECT way to do it ?
it more the fact that he is already entrusting his loom to sandy a professional --so why not ask him the way to do it --as he would want it to be wired the correct way if connected to his loom .
amateurs? --well if you going to double or treble the current on std wiring and think that is ok hard wired in -- then YES

but yes, you take the term amateur as a derogatory comment --maybe i should have said bodgers as an amatuer someone who doesn,t do it as a profession and i,m sure there are lots of them that know the right way and would not short cut on such jobs -- so i will apologise to any good amateurs out there

axsaxoman · 27th April 2016, 12:52

you are probably right --just as well i don,t have to rely on dealing with people who can,t take the truth
but suprising how many phone calls i get from people wanting REAL tech help
why do you think you get very few real professionals coming on these forums --cos of all the know it all -know bugger all that get upset when they get told how it really is
too old for that --yes i can be grumpy when the facts are given and get replies which try to make it seem like i,m not right + try to belittle the near 50 years of motor prepation experience--when i know I am right

charlie2 · 27th April 2016, 13:23

I agree with you that as the wiring is at a professional wiring guy let him do the wiring correctly, no brainer,and yes I told him the correct way,look at a wiring diagram! As for adding 6.5 amps draw to standard fuel pump wiring which is rated higher than the fuse can't be a problem can it?.if I was running a high ampage 044 pump then yes a relay would be needed as the wiring would have burnt out by now!.

stevo67 · 28th April 2016, 10:54

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Originally Posted by axsaxoman

you are probably right --just as well i don,t have to rely on dealing with people who can,t take the truth
but suprising how many phone calls i get from people wanting REAL tech help
why do you think you get very few real professionals coming on these forums --cos of all the know it all -know bugger all that get upset when they get told how it really is
too old for that --yes i can be grumpy when the facts are given and get replies which try to make it seem like i,m not right + try to belittle the near 50 years of motor prepation experience--when i know I am right

I'll say this & refrain from commenting anymore.I've seen enough experienced mechanics over the years totally fuck someones car up,the attitude of i'm a masterfit mechanic i've been to college is quite common in the motor trade,along with the customer knows fuck all let's fleece them.

Stissy · 28th April 2016, 11:34

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Originally Posted by stevo67

I'll say this & refrain from commenting anymore.I've seen enough experienced mechanics over the years totally fuck someones car up,the attitude of i'm a masterfit mechanic i've been to college is quite common in the motor trade,along with the customer knows fuck all let's fleece them.

This is why there is a difference between a mechanic and an auto-electrician.