More modern engine conversions? - Saxperience

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 08:16

Thinking about newer engines that have come out in more recent Citroens/Pug's

Will the C2 VTS engine go in a Saxo. It has 125bhp doesn't it??

How about the engine in the new 207GT its a 1.6 turbo. Are these engines based on the same (TU??) engines that the VTR and VTS have or are they completely different?

Would they fit?

smartgavin · 23rd December 2006, 09:48

Engine section? probably get a better answer there..

With enough money almost any engine will fit, theres the Zcars people that will put bike engines into saxos and that other place that does the Vtec conversions....

ets2k9 · 23rd December 2006, 10:02

The c2 can go in the saxo and the new 207GT engine would be expensive if you were to find one.

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 10:04

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Originally Posted by ets2k9

The c2 can go in the saxo and the new 207GT engine would be expensive if you were to find one.

What makes the C2 5bhp more powerful than a Saxo VTS engine??

Yeah I doubt it would be cheap but it'd be a good conversion if it was possible and very tuneable I would imagine. Prolly the conversion of the future.

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 10:02

Could anyone move it over or shall I start a new thread over there??

Yeah I realise that engines can bee put in the back with spasse frames etc.

I'm just thinking about easier conversions. Something that goes pretty much straight in without faffing about.

KamRacing · 23rd December 2006, 10:12

it has bigger valves for starters but just consider it the same engine with very small tweaks. Not worth getting the full engine for 5bhp. Just use the head

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 10:14

Hmmm not even if I was going to be converting to another engine anyway?? E.G taking the engine out of my VTR?

S34MER · 23rd December 2006, 10:21

i have heard of people dropping a C2 engine into their saxo before, on a couple of occasions actually, but im not sure if any 'extra' work was needed to make the baby fit snug under the bonnet! they will deffinately fit though!

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 13:20

Also why has the C2/C3 GT/VTR only got 110 from the same 1.6 16V?

KamRacing · 23rd December 2006, 17:05

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Originally Posted by vtr_driver

Also why has the C2/C3 GT/VTR only got 110 from the same 1.6 16V?

milder cam profile I think

rey · 23rd December 2006, 13:24

207GT engine is a diesel!! performance isnt too hot

lavo-vts · 23rd December 2006, 16:21

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Originally Posted by rey

207GT engine is a diesel!! performance isnt too hot

its petrol. its a brand new bmw engine out of the new mini cooper

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 13:25

Ur jokin I though it was a petrol! Oh well that sucks LOL

SteVTR · 23rd December 2006, 13:27

nothing wrong with diesel engines look at the golf gti tdi it flies quite a few manufacturers are using diesles in performance cars now but as for the 207 gt its wank i'd avoid it like the plague

R4T · 24th December 2006, 10:52

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Originally Posted by SteVTR

nothing wrong with diesel engines look at the golf gti tdi it flies quite a few manufacturers are using diesles in performance cars now but as for the 207 gt its wank i'd avoid it like the plague

i agree the golf tdi is a flier,my ex's mum has 1 with a amd chip what a mega difference it makes cudnt believe it!!!

rey · 23rd December 2006, 13:31

yeah i wasn't dissin' diesels, was just saying the 207's engine is crap!

vtr_driver · 23rd December 2006, 13:32

Are you sure its diesel. I'm talkin bout the 1.6 turbo thats been co-built with BMW

This:

SteVTR · 23rd December 2006, 13:32

not just the engine the whole car is shite puegeot have seriously lost the plot

Mcsvtr · 23rd December 2006, 18:11

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Originally Posted by SteVTR

not just the engine the whole car is shite puegeot have seriously lost the plot

i wouldnt agree. me granda has a 407 1.4 d, its a 1.4 and its diesel, its a miser on juice, peugeot/citroen made ok diesel engines in the past, ie berlingo and partner sold like hotbuns over here and are very common. Thats for a reason

SteVTR · 24th December 2006, 10:27

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Originally Posted by Mcsvtr

i wouldnt agree. me granda has a 407 1.4 d, its a 1.4 and its diesel, its a miser on juice, peugeot/citroen made ok diesel engines in the past, ie berlingo and partner sold like hotbuns over here and are very common. Thats for a reason

wasnt slating diesels when i said that mate i was slating peugeot in general for copping out and building middle of the road pissy warm hatches like most companies are doing thesedays

the 150 bhp turbo 207 gt is built to compete with the likes of the mini cooper and the fiesta st both of which are cheaper than the 207 and the fiesta is quicker than it.also both the mini and the fiesta are nicer looking cars and imo have a nicer interior

and when they bring the 27 gti out it'll be up against the cars like the 197 clio so it'll probally flop aswell