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Old 3rd February 2015, 11:15   #1
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Default Comparing camshafts TU5J4

Hi guys I'm deciding that camshafts take for 16v
and am looking for more information as possible and more experience with maps from possibly think of all ...
I am stuck at the comparison between 715-708 - 743-705
as torque and horsepower rpm as are the comparisons ???
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743's is you need to know.
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all technical values
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torque and horsepower
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I watched them.
there are no horses or torque or engine rpm
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no-one supplies that information for camshafts
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users who have rolled on the test bench?
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you cannot expect to get those type of figures without knowing EXACT spec of engine -exhaust manifold type + ex system ,type +size of t/bodies and inlet manifold head work ,valve sizes comp ratio +piston type and of course type of fuel
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and then theres the variation in data from each rolling road as each is calibrated differently. You can get an idea, but it wont be official from the manufacturer. It would be a legal minefield if there was a guarantee on power.

Decide what the car is going to be used for. A camshaft supplier can then advise the right one for your car. Usually the main limiting factor is how many modifications and how much you are prepared to spend to make the camshaft work.

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you cannot expect to get those type of figures without knowing EXACT spec of engine -exhaust manifold type + ex system ,type +size of t/bodies and inlet manifold head work ,valve sizes comp ratio +piston type and of course type of fuel
standard configuration of most of the preparations:
head c2 / 206
butterfly 54mm
60mm exhaust
saxo Intake cup
pistons and connecting rods with niches valve c2 / 206
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std ex manifold and has a cat fitted?

no throttle bodies
only doing half a job
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std ex manifold and has a cat fitted?

no throttle bodies
only doing half a job
exhaust manifolds 4-2-1
everything else original
except a map unit made on test bench
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If you can't even be bothered too look in the progress section, i see no point wasting my time here
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what mechanical changes have?
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what mechanical changes have?
found
4-2-1 manifold, 2" decat, cup intake and 743 cams

you did before
155,8nm at 5292rpm
139,5hk at 7341rpm

after the map
173,0nm at 5192rpm
158,3hk at 7323rpm

very good to have only those changes
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4-2-1 manifold, 2" decat, cup intake and 743 cams

you did before
155,8nm at 5292rpm
139,5hk at 7341rpm

after the map
173,0nm at 5192rpm
158,3hk at 7323rpm

very good to have only those changes
There you have it.
If you can find someone with roughly the same changes but with different cams, then you can compare those.
But i doubt you'll find much better cams than 743 with stock lifters.

The deal with 715 is that you can use those without a remap, where 743 is only giving you half the potential until you get it mapped.
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715 are bad. have more time.
I would like to see some rolled on the bench with those cams
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715's will still peak above the std rev limit so a remap would be required.
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