Whats the best rev range to keep a VTS in? - Page 2 - Saxperience

rushy_23 · 25th November 2006, 11:04

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Originally Posted by don55

rushy were talking about track driving, not traffic light grad prix's

Where in the thread did I state street racing and racing on a track.

Also all my comments were regarding a standard VTS.

Yea obviously the best point in the rev range is 5k-5.5k. But by that what your saying is around a track you hold the revs at this range constantly??

My point was regarding the best range mate. On a track you want to keep
the car in the best rev range. Yes I agree round a track 3.5k is no good
but imo the lowest you would want to drop the revs to will be around 4.5k.
That will still give you enough torque and keep the car pokey enough.

Finally as I stated the best power band will end at just over 7k on a standard
VTS. If you dont agree then slowly boot it in 1st or 2nd up to those sorts
of revs and you can actually feel that the amount of torque has dropped.

Why hold the revs so high is its not producing any more power

don55 · 25th November 2006, 11:08

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

Nah dont bother tbh. Even at the lights whe n you know the man in his
suit wants to race in his company car vectra.
Whats the point? The lights down the bottom will only change to red later
lol!!

right thre you mentioned it lol.

But by that what your saying is around a track you hold the revs at this range constantly??

when did i say that, i said 5k to the limiter.

well as you say it dies out jsut after 7k, the limit is 7250, so its not far after, also if you have another corner coming up, no point shifting to 3rd, keep it it second to the limit, or back of a litle, it will save you time in the long run.

rushy_23 · 25th November 2006, 11:12

Yea fully agree mate,
round a track you constantly hold the revs up high in lower gears when required to keep the
speed around the track. Keep the car working.

I just didnt find your Grand Prix comment amusing. Obviously judging me
without even knowing me.
My mention of street racing was that i Dont do it, read it again mate.... If you dont get that then i can draw a pic on paint for you when
I get in from work tonight..

There was no mention of me street racing in this thread, and using that information to talk about
the VTS rev range.

don55 · 25th November 2006, 11:23

yer sorry, i did get the wrong end of your stick, and i applogise, i dont know you and dont judge you at all mate.

if you could do a picture, it would amuse me greatly lol.

rushy_23 · 25th November 2006, 11:26

No Worries

Will do mate, enjoy using paint! Will make it comic dont worry.

Lets get back to subject lol!

don55 · 25th November 2006, 11:32

dont know what else there is to talk about, 5k to the limiter

Neil_H · 25th November 2006, 12:11

It's best to change gear just before the limiter, so dropping you straight back into the power band when changing up a gear.

craig180^p · 25th November 2006, 12:23

Ideal time to change gear is just over the peak power. If your vts outputs 130bhp @ 6600 rpm then change at about 6800-6900. That way your next gear is closer to the power band.

As for the actual power band for your car mr 16v boy I would say you will get a kick at about 4k then feel the horses working overtime at about 5.5k

rushy_23 · 25th November 2006, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Neil_H

It's best to change gear just before the limiter, so dropping you straight back into the power band when changing up a gear.

In this man, I trust.

don55 · 25th November 2006, 12:48

don55 · 25th November 2006, 12:49

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Originally Posted by Neil_H

It's best to change gear just before the limiter, so dropping you straight back into the power band when changing up a gear.

thats quite a bold statement to make

do you actually know the rev drops per gear change, i have the info somewhere but cant find it

Neil_H · 25th November 2006, 13:11

I have read the info on rev drops between gear changes, not sure off the top of my head though Don.

craig180^p · 25th November 2006, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Neil_H

I have read the info on rev drops between gear changes, not sure off the top of my head though Don.

Easy way to overcome this is to keep on the throttle between gears or use something like the omex full throttle gear change and limiter. Also has a launch control system!!!

Neil_H · 25th November 2006, 13:20

I just find that changing gear just before the limit seems to work for me.

Japman · 25th November 2006, 13:22

yea me to neil i change just before the limit

Neil_H · 25th November 2006, 13:23

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Originally Posted by saxo180

Easy way to overcome this is to keep on the throttle between gears or use something like the omex full throttle gear change and limiter. Also has a launch control system!!!

Only problem with that mate is that you are putting extra stress on the g/box, and as well all know, they aren't the strongest of boxes.

craig180^p · 25th November 2006, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Neil_H

Only problem with that mate is that you are putting extra stress on the g/box, and as well all know, they aren't the strongest of boxes.

Agreed but you are also putting strain on the box jumping up and down the revs.

My box has done about 70k and it does get abused occasionally. Would it not be the clutch that takes all the crap? I have a paddle clutch on mine which is either in or out. How would that affect the box? Asking now for my own piece of mind!

don55 · 25th November 2006, 13:39

why on gods great planet would you want to keep your foot on the gas when the clutch in pressed during a gear change, all it will do is bang of the limiter and then fry the clutch as you let it back up, the engine is doin 7250 and the gearbox, say goin into 2nd will be at 3000 something, by by clutch plate.

don55 · 25th November 2006, 13:41

anyway here is the data.

rushy_23 · 25th November 2006, 13:49

Wish I could see it, work sucks putting bans on websites!

Whats wrong with Photobucket!