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20th January 2009, 22:40
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Originally Posted by dobbo_1
cant you use the injector rail and just use the boddies to let air through.. sorry if its a nooby question?
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you would need to drill holes in the carbs to run the injectors, with the injectors you are then really wanting standalone as trying to run a map sensor on bodies is nigh on impossible. Just carb tuning alone is very basic and in many cases often runs poor and needs tuning quite often.
Im not a fan of the wannabies with bike carbs tbh, imo if you want to do it, do it properly
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20th January 2009, 22:47
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fair play mate so more work than it is worth? wish i could afford some nice boddies and a s lump
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20th January 2009, 22:50
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people get them to work. But then again ive known of a few over the years to do it on the cheap then bin them off quite quickly...
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21st January 2009, 01:18
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as ryan said bike carbs are a step back in time.
have a look as some model bikes went from carbs to throttle bodies, they can work, but you need an inlet manifold from bogg bros or sandy brown??
the tbs then fit onto this via silicon tubing, you will need to sort out the linkages etc. some bike tbs use 2 injectors per a tb as well.
to run it you will need a standalone management and an uprated cam will give you a good setup with a set of tbs.
but it really isnt a straight forward job, but it can work. i have seen them on a 106 rallye and on a 106 gti.
stay away from bike carbs, some bike TBs can work. im not 100% on the models as some changed to electronic injection. could be the R1s after a certain year, think the gsxr and hayabusa did as well, but dont quote me on that.
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21st January 2009, 10:22
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What bodies do these look like? I have no idea so posting it in here as its on an 8v. Looks quite impressive when you look on the other videos from the user...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CP5q2l...eature=channel
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21st January 2009, 10:36
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could be anything matey lol
carbs and tbs sound awesome.
i loved my nova when it was on twin carbs, sounded fooking awesome!
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THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SPARE SEAT FOR YOU TO RIDE SHOTGUN AROUND THE TRACK WITH ME IN THE 'PIECE OF SHIT SAXO' LMBO IT AINT NO BEEMER OR GOLF, BUT IT WILL BE FAST A FOOK, I PROMISE
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21st January 2009, 18:53
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Car(s): Saxo vtr Mk2
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im guessin turbo is the easier way forward then, unless its proper throttle bodies. anyone no of a low milage vtr engine goin cheap???
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21st January 2009, 19:27
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turbo is no way the easier option. will cost you about twice the price for a decent setup. you could run a low boost setup, not sure what power you would achieve, maybe 140? depending on spec. but it wouldnt be as reliable as throttle bodies.
if you do it properley, you will need forged rods and piston, thats £1600 already, not to mention, turbo, manifold, ecu, mapping. the turbo route is much more expensive.
bike bodies are the cheapest route, about 200 for the bodies, send them to sandy brown to be machined, 450 i think. then you just need management and a cam to make it worth while.
but the management side can be done cheap, i have heard of people using piggy back ecus like dastek.
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22nd January 2009, 16:24
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any suggestions on how to move forward then, gettin a lot more bhp.
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22nd January 2009, 23:10
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hyabusa engine in the boot?
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