Bore wash -updated - Page 2 - Saxperience

AndySAXO^p · 19th August 2012, 06:53

I wouldn't use a lc1 wide band...... Mine always over heat/shut down. But now it stop altogether.

blackie_2k5 · 19th August 2012, 20:16

I won't be mate cheers for the heads up

Will be getting an aem one as they're self calibrating and get good press, seem to hear nothing but complaints about the innovates this last year

luthor1 · 20th August 2012, 18:55

there may be a newer version of the ECU firmware I can load onto your ECU for you, which can improve idle massively, and has a few other tricks going on, also I can set your idle fuelling and part throttle without a wideband if that helps you at all?

Andy

blackie_2k5 · 20th August 2012, 19:18

Was that not what you changed last time?

luthor1 · 20th August 2012, 19:34

that was a long time ago now!!

Let me get back on it and have another look

DeekB · 20th August 2012, 20:52

With the LC1 wideband I was having major issues, A firmware upgrade on the LC1 Controller sorts it, With mines I kept getting Error 8's, Mines was originally on firmware 1.10, Upgrade to 1.20 and replace the sensor itself and all your problems like mines should disappear,

You can also downgrade to 1.00 and this also fixes the problem but an upgrade is recommended as once you downgrade you cannot upgrade,

And can't recommend Andy and his ECU's enough, Top Guy!!

AndySAXO^p · 20th August 2012, 21:09

Andy how would I find out what firmware mine is on?

luthor1 · 20th August 2012, 21:12

The LC-1 has its own software on the CD, or you can download it. Then when you run the software you can see the firmware

DeekB · 20th August 2012, 21:29

As Andy said but I used the Innovate LC1 forums and website, Downloaded the latest firmware and software

The 1.20 firmware isnt listed on the website you need to contact support for it or search for a thread on the forums with it

also sorry for the thread Hijack.

luthor1 · 20th August 2012, 21:33

LC-1 is directly relevent to bore-wash as it's a tool which will show the signs of it very clearly if configured and used correctly, so not thread hijack at all!!

gazza808 · 20th August 2012, 21:53

On another note,

My lc-1 and xd-16 Gauge worked as well as the day I bought them after 30k,

On the same sensor,

Dunno how people have hassle or so many fail maybe I bought a random good one lol?

But I also have an aem one now as I have the lc-1 setup to check other people's setups

DeekB · 21st August 2012, 07:31

Could be your Wideband controller has firmware 1.00 or 1.20 as when I was on the innovate forums the people that were having problems all had 1.10 on they're controller like mines,

Once they released the updated firmware I replaced the sensor and updated the firmware, Not had a problem since, If you look on the innovate forums there is loads of threads on this issue.

blackie_2k5 · 28th August 2012, 22:41

Back together

New bottom end.. Soon as it was up to temp it was exactly the same as it was previous to stripping it

So it wasn't the rings

jones91 · 28th August 2012, 23:23

thats gutting mate

but when you said to me that your compression was 170-180 across the lot a short while back i thought it seemed a bit strange

any other ideas on the situation? Does it still boost as it should?

gazza808 · 28th August 2012, 23:26

What's exhaust side of turbo like? Haven't got any oil in one of the exhaust boxes have you?

blackie_2k5 · 28th August 2012, 23:34

my thinking is back to valve stems tbh..i dont think its the turbo..

looking back at the pics on page 1..cylinders 1..3..4 are carbon'd up due to the rich running..and cylinder 2 is full of oil..

no smoke on idle..lots of blip of throttle..overrun..

i think one of the new seals i fitted was fucked and ive been convinced it was rings

Cam · 28th August 2012, 23:37

Oh Blackie, good old Saxos

adzvtr · 29th August 2012, 00:50

A valve stem problem would tend to constantly allow oil into the bore. And usually smokes as soon as u start the car not so much when warm.

blackie_2k5 · 29th August 2012, 00:59

basically this :

but not as bad as that yet..on vacuum..i get clouds..once warmed up when the oil is thin

going back to page one..looks like cylinder 2

adzvtr · 29th August 2012, 01:04

Ive just had the same issue. It turned out to be the ring gaps.
But wen i had valve stem problem. Oil leeks through over night into the bore.
And smokes alot on first start up. U can see oil on the valve stems through the exhaust or inlet ports before u strip head off if it comes to that. Might atleast save u a gasket and bolts???