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2nd March 2013, 15:40
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
pahaha, pal, dont even spoil my night. . . . probably. :')
They do oil by design though, the reason they bang their tits off is their map.
Because they fire on every rotation, and run up to near 9K they run rich as hell to stop them melting the cat. Mazda even put an 'air pump' in simply to pump air into the exhaust lol On a standard map they cut the spark at 9k and let an impressive fart out the back.
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My 106 GTI has an air pump.
I have racecar now?
In fact, here's a standard 16V. I'm tapping the throttle.
Last edited by MartinObviously; 2nd March 2013 at 15:59.
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2nd March 2013, 16:35
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I just push da button innit
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2nd March 2013, 17:16
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Originally Posted by josh11490
If you got one with launch control set that to around 3k revs then rev upto about 5k, come off gas and press button.
That should make it bangs.... Mine does.
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Hard cut or Soft cut? I found in 4th around the launch control limit if holding the button while driving it does bang, just not sitting still, that may of been on soft cut also i cant remember ill have to check
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See mine doesnt bang like that on launch control, i guess they're all different!
Bedford - Nah mate I'm not mad, just no need to come troll really 
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2nd March 2013, 18:31
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Originally Posted by James93
Bedford - Nah mate I'm not mad, just no need to come troll really |
Trololololol.... 
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2nd March 2013, 18:46
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Lmfao! Never gonna win so i'll just go along with it!
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2nd March 2013, 21:14
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Originally Posted by James93
See mine doesnt bang like that on launch control, i guess they're all different!
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It's all in the set up, mines soft cut at 2500 hard at 3500 retard to 1degree and cut fuel and spark 9 events from 15 gives a very clean 3500 rpm launch..
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2nd March 2013, 23:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinObviously
My 106 GTI has an air pump.
I have racecar now?
In fact, here's a standard 16V. I'm tapping the throttle.
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3rd March 2013, 00:06
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
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What? 
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3rd March 2013, 07:33
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3rd March 2013, 08:18
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omd'z this thread is kind of getting out of hand i think,
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3rd March 2013, 08:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinObviously
My 106 GTI has an air pump.
I have racecar now?
In fact, here's a standard 16V. I'm tapping the throttle.
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They aren't pops lol.
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3rd March 2013, 08:55
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Why would launch control make pops and bangs? Are you thinking of anti lag? 
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Ok Viper, you are 100% correct concerning everything, sorry to have interrupted your discussion, please continue.
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Beastiallity... They're always blowing seals. Ba-dum-tssh!
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3rd March 2013, 08:57
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Originally Posted by Viper
Why would launch control make pops and bangs? Are you thinking of anti lag? |
noob or trollin?
It cuts the spark so the revs stay at eg 3k whilst your right foot is buried.
Cut spark + full throttle + hot exhaust = boom.
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3rd March 2013, 09:05
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Apparently noob. I thought it just held the revs at a certain point, didn't know it did it by effectively cutting out.
Either way I would rather have anti lag.
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Ok Viper, you are 100% correct concerning everything, sorry to have interrupted your discussion, please continue.
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Beastiallity... They're always blowing seals. Ba-dum-tssh!
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3rd March 2013, 11:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxova
noob or trollin?
It cuts the spark so the revs stay at eg 3k whilst your right foot is buried.
Cut spark + full throttle + hot exhaust = boom.
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not entirely true
this will explain it better than i can be bothered to
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3rd March 2013, 12:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saxova
They aren't pops lol.
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Yes they are.
I've still got a cat and both silencers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by saxova
noob or trollin?
It cuts the spark so the revs stay at eg 3k whilst your right foot is buried.
Cut spark + full throttle + hot exhaust = boom.
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Not always, and the exhaust doesn't have to be hot. the excess fuel (now sitting in the exhaust due to the spark cut) which provides the pops is primarily ignited by flames coming past the valves.
Proper rev limiters cut the fuel or retard the timing. cutting the fuel is hard cut and retarding is soft cut.
I made a soft cut for my 1.5D once, hilarious. 
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Originally Posted by Viper
Apparently noob. I thought it just held the revs at a certain point, didn't know it did it by effectively cutting out.
Either way I would rather have anti lag.
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Yes, you are noob. anti lag is for turbo charged cars  not spaxos.
If you have an electronic TB, you could set it up to hold revs lower through the ECU. but I don't think it would be as effective.
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3rd March 2013, 12:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinObviously
Yes they are.
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The Macdonalds crew would give a solid 2 out of 10.
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3rd March 2013, 13:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m4tt274
The Macdonalds crew would give a solid 2 out of 10.
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Why would I go to McDonalds to rev my car?
If I did want to be part, why would I take a lowered car which is OEM.
noob
Clearly, you don't rate my car as being able to pop, you must be part of their crue, only official McDonalds car park members can give ratings out.
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3rd March 2013, 16:54
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aahhhhh you got me.
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