Mental Health - condition's and coping - Page 2 - Saxperience

pedromakarachi · 21st January 2015, 18:25

Seems like a few have mixed opinions and rightly so. Mental health and it's symptons are often mistaken or misunderstood.

Rewinding to a comment in my earlier post of 'you can counsel other but you can't council yourself'. Seems due to being inside the circle(so to speak) is harder, where as those outside the circle(i.e. you and your problems)find it much easier to look in and advise.

Personally I find that my head(the rational aspect of my concious being) gives me good advice and a sense of following the right path(be it through morals, ethics or other defining factors) but my heart(which many people have told me I wear on my sleeve thus making me an easy target for some)takes me on some wild rides through an emotional roller coaster. I agree that different people have different strengths and different coping mechanisms but, looking at my mental health issues and how other people suffer with similar, it is hard to cope as you find yourself hurting in the most painful emotional way known only to yourself. You start to push those closest to you away so they don't get sucked into the black hole you feel you will inevitably descend into. But as you push them away it hurts more, then you want to have them close. But then the fear of them getting hurt in your problems arises and so on and so forth. It is a battle of conflict and a vicious circle that is very hard to find a way out of. Given enough time you can spiral into a world within yourself that is far worse than originally existed.
Despair, depending on how the individual feels, can be the final straw and I have recently lost a friend who took his own life. As selfish and sad as it may seem to some, being in a dark place where others may perceive you at your weakest, to make that decision to take your own life, you must find a new strength through irrational thinking to be able to follow such a distressful course of action. Not saying I admire people who do commit suicide but I have a weird respect in some way when they have the actual guts to do it.

Through being lost in my despair and emotions, my strength to keep going is my wife, my family and my friends. I couldn't put them through that pain imo

jockyb · 21st January 2015, 21:22

I work with people suffering with dementia (not quite mental health, but usually the first referral for these people through their doc is to the mental health unit). We get a fair few residents through the local MH unit too, although most referrals are from their family (through the hospital or doctors)
It's hard on the families too. Many of them are in tears when they bring their mum or dad, having coped for many years with their parent's condition. Sort of finally admitting they just can't cope (when they thought they could) We're lucky though as our longest shift is 12 hrs. Family members trying to cope with a relative with dementia, don't have the luxury of clocking off. I love working there, but start a new job as a HCA in the local hospital soon (much better job prospects and pay)

fireball · 22nd January 2015, 18:36

iv been to the GP today after being forced to by family and friends , hes now reffered me to a specialist which will be seeing me in a day or two as he thinks pills will take too long to have an impact and he thinks I need immediate help

0rang3peel · 22nd January 2015, 18:57

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Originally Posted by fireball

iv been to the GP today after being forced to by family and friends , hes now reffered me to a specialist which will be seeing me in a day or two as he thinks pills will take too long to have an impact and he thinks I need immediate help

They are forcing you because they're worried and care about you. Seeing a specialist is certainly a step in the right direction, chin up it's not really that bad.

sri_130 · 23rd January 2015, 11:31

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Originally Posted by fireball

iv been to the GP today after being forced to by family and friends , hes now reffered me to a specialist which will be seeing me in a day or two as he thinks pills will take too long to have an impact and he thinks I need immediate help

Good man for listening and attending.

Looks like you're gonna be getting help, which is great news.

Quick · 22nd January 2015, 19:03

At least they haven't had you sectioned!

Brettles1986 · 23rd January 2015, 13:58

I think society is to blame for a lot of mental health sufferers not getting the help they need. There is such a stigma that anybody with any form of mind related illness is mental and I am guessing that a lot of you problems stem from not wanting to be thrown into that stereotype.

Good man for going to see the Dr though, you are stepping in the right direction. Just remember that Rome wasn't built in a day and these things take time to overcome.

dj_mira · 23rd January 2015, 21:36

Having been a sufferer of depression for over 10 years I agree with what everyone is saying, there is too much of a stigma attached to mental health issues, and as others have said you soon learn who your true friends are. Am glad that you are getting the help you need, it is a step in the right direction.

L33h · 23rd January 2015, 22:55

Okay I think it's my time to contribute. A lot of people on this forum don't know this but like your friend or you I have had a serious case of depression. ( believe it or not, those on here who do and have helped me, I am extremely great full, without some of you I probably wouldn't be here (Thanks Matt and Rachael) Even the people who have had a laugh with me without knowing, thanks.)

In my case I thought i was fucked because I thought I was only 25 and thought everyone was against me. Everyone I turned to said why are you depressed you're only 25, you're young and have this and that, nobody understood. It doesn't matter. I don't like saying this in public but not long ago after a lot of drink and drugs, I ended up on a massive viaduct trying to find the courage to jump off... Luckily I didn't with the help of friends and people on here.

I found the best way to deal with it is to talk to someone and tell them absolutely everything. I personally don't know you or anything about you so like the people who helped me, I'm urging you to please send me a private message so we can talk in private. I want to return the favour that's been handed to me (thanks again you don't realise how much you mean to me). Please get in touch!!

To those who didn't know about this part of my life, I begging you not to take the piss out of me. I can take a joke but this is a part of my life that's serious to me. Thanks.

fireball · 24th January 2015, 11:05

thanks everyone for the encouragement , it was not a pleasant experience going to the doctor especially the first opening conversation , hopefully things will get better , I and everyone around me can only but try

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Originally Posted by L33h

Okay I think it's my time to contribute. A lot of people on this forum don't know this but like your friend or you I have had a serious case of depression. ( believe it or not, those on here who do and have helped me, I am extremely great full, without some of you I probably wouldn't be here (Thanks Matt and Rachael) Even the people who have had a laugh with me without knowing, thanks.)

In my case I thought i was fucked because I thought I was only 25 and thought everyone was against me. Everyone I turned to said why are you depressed you're only 25, you're young and have this and that, nobody understood. It doesn't matter. I don't like saying this in public but not long ago after a lot of drink and drugs, I ended up on a massive viaduct trying to find the courage to jump off... Luckily I didn't with the help of friends and people on here.

I found the best way to deal with it is to talk to someone and tell them absolutely everything. I personally don't know you or anything about you so like the people who helped me, I'm urging you to please send me a private message so we can talk in private. I want to return the favour that's been handed to me (thanks again you don't realise how much you mean to me). Please get in touch!!

To those who didn't know about this part of my life, I begging you not to take the piss out of me. I can take a joke but this is a part of my life that's serious to me. Thanks.

a lot of courage was needed to say that l33h, you should be proud that your able to be open and honest about such a deep part of your life , its suprising how much someone else can help , friends or such things like this forum , these have lifted me at times also, also anyone who decides to take the piss on something such as this would have to be really sick to be honest

I will of course message you

stevo67 · 25th January 2015, 18:14

Whether the road is or was clear it takes less than a second for something to appear in your path,leaving no time for you to react.

fireball · 25th January 2015, 18:26

and people still cannot drop it , your just trying to get a reaction out of me which will result in a ban so please.. just fuck off and leave it

stevo67 · 25th January 2015, 18:31

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and people still cannot drop it , your just trying to get a reaction out of me which will result in a ban so please.. just fuck off and leave it

Carrying on with that attitude will see you banned anyway,if you don't like what's being said then logout your choice.at the end of the day the only person who can get you better is you.As someone who has come from a worse situation than you i know what i'm talking about.

fireball · 26th January 2015, 06:36

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Carrying on with that attitude will see you banned anyway,if you don't like what's being said then logout your choice.at the end of the day the only person who can get you better is you.As someone who has come from a worse situation than you i know what i'm talking about.

love how you automaticly think you have been in a worse situation than me having known nothing about my life , this is exactly the kinda attitude that causes this stigma on mental health " yeah iv been in a worse situation than you just get on with it ect...ect.."

stevo67 · 28th January 2015, 19:59

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Originally Posted by fireball

love how you automaticly think you have been in a worse situation than me having known nothing about my life , this is exactly the kinda attitude that causes this stigma on mental health " yeah iv been in a worse situation than you just get on with it ect...ect.."

This is not the time or place to talk about things like you're mental health.Try losing a kid losing your job and battling drink addiction all within the space of a few months.then you will know what raw emotional pain is like.

Giraffe · 26th January 2015, 08:00

Fireball, chill the fuck out. It's the internet and you seem unable to deal with the internet.

holdawayt · 26th January 2015, 08:50

Feeling embarrassed or afraid to admit you have problems is a strange one to me. If you've ever lived in America for any stretch of time you'll see that every man and his dog sees a therapist. It's as normal in America as seeing your dentist.

You can take that two ways, America is crap and therefore everyone needs to see a therapist, or you could see it that over there they're not afraid to seek help (even at great capital expense) because there's no shame there.

I haven't read all of the posts on this thread but well done to those who have found help and have seen a change. Over Christmas just gone I didn't leave my bedroom for two weeks. I don't know if that's classed as depression or what but for no reason what so ever I just couldn't face other people. Don't get me wrong I still showered, ate etc but would retreat back into the "safety" of that room immediately.

Never felt like that again since and still can't explain it now, it was just a horrible blip that left me feeling anxious, something I've never had an issue with before.