all show and no go!!!

[don55]

wow u lot wana sort it out every1 gets so aggressive,what ever happened to nodding to the chap next to you and racing from the light,dont get me wrong im not a wreckless driver at all far from it but its good to race some times,im not one of theis loosers who cant get his foot of the floor i just think the essance of street racing has been lost over the years,im not knocking people for makin cars look good,hell im expecting my body kit 2moz,who am i to talk yeah.i just think there are to many people out there who get a new car on loan and send it to the garrage and say"yeah mate make it phat"then 2 weeks later there in a mag,its not right,it used to focus on people who do up cars,as we all like to think but now its on what the car looks like alone,not many cars have any serious engine mods in maggy yet spend 10s of 1000s on the outside,but i supose every1 has there own priorities,thats fair enough.all im sayin is its a shame more people dont race and im sorry cos ive obviously upset a few people here and for that i apologise,what more can i say,i will say that if u never like to go fast in ur car then i still think ur a weener shnitzle.

[don55]

wow u lot wana sort it out every1 gets so aggressive,what ever happened to nodding to the chap next to you and racing from the light,dont get me wrong im not a wreckless driver at all far from it but its good to race some times,im not one of theis loosers who cant get his foot of the floor i just think the essance of street racing has been lost over the years,im not knocking people for makin cars look good,hell im expecting my body kit 2moz,who am i to talk yeah.i just think there are to many people out there who get a new car on loan and send it to the garrage and say"yeah mate make it phat"then 2 weeks later there in a mag,its not right,it used to focus on people who do up cars,as we all like to think but now its on what the car looks like alone,not many cars have any serious engine mods in maggy yet spend 10s of 1000s on the outside,but i supose every1 has there own priorities,thats fair enough.all im sayin is its a shame more people dont race and im sorry cos ive obviously upset a few people here and for that i apologise,what more can i say,i will say that if u never like to go fast in ur car then i still think ur a weener shnitzle.

[Scottp]

no one said it was bad to have the odd "race" now and again we were just saying your comment on drivers who dont want to go fast was a bit out of order.

I still dont get why you would consider someone who doesnt want to go fast a "weener shnitzle"?

[supersav]

cool it chaps, when i mentioned about racing an s2000 i didn't mention it was on the a4 in london, 3 lanes and buggerall on it at the time, me in lane 1 and the other guy in 3. stupid for racing on the road? possibly, but i dont race other people in the rush hour trafic.

I kind of agree with don about his initial comment though. he's got a point, it used to be "look what I've done" but now days it seems more and more the case that the underlying statement is "look what i can afford to get some other guy to do for me". wich can only be a bad thing for the whole moding movement, I mean, think about it, we all start paying big companies big money for products and services and they then start to have control over the whole sceen, where as the whole thing started with people working on their drives and in their sheds making something they thaught up five minutes ago from a bit of old scrap, lovingly sculpting an creating a work of art, then they showed it to a mate who made one of his own and showed that to another guy, with the exchange of ideas where we are today has happened, and what with the low cost and top quality raw materials available to us today, don is spot on, we should continue in the vein of our fore fathers and use our imagination and not allow ourselves to become sheep.

[don55]

sheep bein the word supersav,ur spot on im glad to see at least one person id behind me.im not a ass on the roads i always let people out and give way sometimes i take a liberty but who doesnt(besides scott golden balls).i only race when its safe to do so,and ill admit its ot that often but if the chance arrises then hell yeah im game, i just find it impossible to belive that there are people out there who are in tocarsbut dont want to go fast,EVER.WHAT??u mean to tell me uve never heard ur induction roar and ur exhaust rasp,obviously not or you would not have the opinion u have now,look if you pretty boys wana go cruzin about at 10mph so every1 can see u in ur lopsided highlightened hair cut then thats fine,at least it seperates the men from the boys,hey.im really not lookin for a slag match i think u are i mean come on why would u not wana go fast,look around you mate thats what every1 wants chips,induction,exhaust,throttles,manifolds,polish n port,cams,vernier gear.just think about it yeah.the moddin scene is well out at the mo and me and peeps like supersav are trying to shed the light and all peeps can do is take the piss,well pitty on thee.

[Scottp]

"besides scott golden balls"

what the hell is that supposed to mean.

Read my posts. I never said one thing about whatever the hell you get up to, i ONLY commented on the fact that saying you shouldnt have a licence if you dont drive fast and that your a pup if you dont drive fast.

Think about what you posting for fuck sake

"seperates the men from the boys"

YOU tell how on earth driving fast seperates the men from the boys.

And no, not once was i looking for a slagging match. I only made the point that others made. Read what i have posted in this thread and then answer

[C2_VTR]

If you look at our post we were just complaining about you saying people who don't drive fast are losers! To us that meant that you were dissing everyone for not going fast all the time and race everyone in sight nearly! Hence my post! But that is not to say we don't go fast. I'm from London and whenever I go out towards southend on the A13 I like to open it up a bit if I can, it feels good to know you have it there when you want but doesn't necessarily mean I'm gonna race the first person I see (also because as you said there is hardly anyone doing that now!).

[Dan]

Again i agree with Scott and C2_VTR, jus cos we dont go driving and racing all the time doesnt mean we aint heard our induction roar or our exhausts and we aint " weener shnitzels" either! if u want to come here an think ur all big and clever then ur on the wrong site mate!!!!

everyone else on here gets on fine and shares there opinions but we dont take the piss out of each other!!!

[Enbwo]

See the difference in all these posts is that scott, danvtr and C2_VTR are expressing opinions and making comments about what you are posting don, whereas you are insulting people and judging people just because of their interests. Which is not what the forum is about, clearly you are the one looking for a slagging match as you the one using the abusive language.

Just chill for a bit and accept that not everyone in the world thinks the same as you, and that doens't make them wrong.

[don55]

im not saying it makes them wrong yeah,i just think its a shame yeah that people aint into there cars there into what there cars look like,like i said im not one of these idiots in a motor raggin it about all the time,i live in a small village and if people speed i go fking mad a them,i cant stand it,but on the other hand when its 1am and im driving about then yes i will drive fast,i dont think there is anything wrong with this,and im not comin on here to be the big man.i just wana help peeps out,i no you lot now think im a complete wanker and there is nothing that i can do now.i just have strong opinions.like i said im sorry if ive offended any1 personaly.and as far as scott goes i am sorry for callin you golden balls(meaning ur perfect) if you look at all my other posts and threads u will see that im not really a dick,i jst get very emotional.im back of to the garage to try sort my torsion bar out,fun fun.

[Ripper3]

Yea, so wot if people prefer moddin the exterior of their cars more than under the bonnet, u have 2 admit, buyin a bodykit is cheaper thn engine mods, id still do as much as possible if i had a car tho
Was that fun, fun sarcastic?

[don55]

so what,so nothingim just saying look ripper theres no reason to get all milky,start taking the piss,this is ur first thread in this forum so i dont care what u say,anyway u dont even have a car so who are you to talk,wat are you like 14-15 yrs old.id be supprised if you even knew wat a torsion bar was.]

im not knocking people for doin the outside of your car i am expecting my bodykit on tuesday,im not a hypocrite either,im fed up with every1 on here having such a problem with a guy who has a difference in opinion to every1 else.

this thread was to explain how it used to be "look what ive done to my car" but now its "look how much loan i can get so someone else can build my car"

its destroying the modding scene but know1 else can see through it(bar a few)i just think its all goin down the pan but every1 is to stubern to open there eyes

[Ripper3]

Yes, im 15, yes i no wot a torsion bar is, i no all of that stuff, and im not sayin nethin against u!
I was just sayin, that most peops prefer body mods, thats all...
I no wot u mean, if u look in an old Max mag, people have done pretty much everythin themselves, while in the new one, they just tell a company 2 design a kit, or fit on a kit thats really expensive, and dont necesarily look all that good, but its just fitted so as they can say "I have money, i can pay someone else 2 do my work 4 me!" I think theres only a handfull of articles about cars that have been modded by the owners a year, while in '95 or somethin, most people featured in mags had made the kit themselves in the shed and also sprayed it themselves while almost gettin killed by the fumes of the cyanide developed paint
Pklus, when i said the stuff b4, i was just messin around, didnt want it 2 sound as if i was arguein...
But just for the record, a torion bar is a bar of steel thats treated by heat or pressure to make it sort of elastic so that when the car goes over bumps, it bends the bar up and down, but always goes back to the original shape, pretty much works like conventional suspension, by just moving to absorb the bumps in the road but the French just had 2 b different and came up w/it, the it was used in 4x4s for the front i think

[don55]

look kid i did not mean to offend u,for a 15yr old uve got ur head screwed on properly ill give u that mate,but a torsion bar twists it dont bend,not to split hairs tho mate.im glad peeps can see where im comin from with the DIY bit,if i told half of my mates i was goin to spray my kit myself(wich i am)they would look at me funny and call me a pikey,id laugh in there face cos ive saved 300quid,minus 10 for the paint i have,wich i can get cheap as i work in a motor factors(it has its perks).all this ive ive modded my car is crap its look what some1 else can do,obviously some u cant do but u can design it and get it made to be orriginal,as where i work i see alot of peeps with modded cars who put cheap ass oil in it dont know what a cam or vacum pump is,and to be honest it tears me up,so many people are completly fukin hopless when it comes to cars,they would rather get the garrage to chane the headlight bulb and pay 50quid,bassicaly it comes down to peeps having more money than scence,in a really big way,but u kid uve got ur head in the right place,nice one little dude

[don55]

also matey how u put that pic as ur sig

[Enbwo]

i agree with most of your points don, but no body is dis-agreeing with most of it, you are repeating the same things about loans and destroying the modifying industry over and over again, we get the point.

All that anyone has had a problem with all along is you criticising other modifiers for not racing!! That is the problem with what you have been saying, nothing else.

And as far as getting loans, what is wrong with that? for people who have less money than you, how else can they modify their cars? You haven't put much thuoght into what you are saying and it sounds more like you are jealous of these people than anything else.

How do you expect people to get things done to their cars then without paying for it? What is wrong with paying sum1 to do something you don't know how to do? People go to college and university and don't do mechanics and end up getting jobs that aren't to do with cars, so how do u expect them to know how to do things? They end up looking a lot nicer than most DIY jobs.

[don55]

u learn dont you,it really not hard,people wana spend alot of money on there cars try goin out to the big world and getting a job,thats what it takes,not to sit on ur ass and get a 10Grand loan,if you aint got the money you cant bloody have it,its laim to go out and get a loan no1 saves up for summit big,they just"get a loan" cos its way easier (at the time)then there is not as much appreciation and satisfaction you have to admit.

its just a shame that the only peps who get in mags(not that i even wana be in one b4 u say im jealous)are the ones who can take out the biggest loans.

if you think im jealous thats fine,really it does not bother me,obviously if it comes to a complete respray then YEAH ur gona get some1 else to do it,but to change a light bulb or fit an induction kit or a back box,thats just plain idleness.i see alot of this cos of where i work and it prob does make me over the top,but it drives me mad,people cant help themselves yet expect other people to runa round in circles for them,its not on.

and im not funkin repeating myself im justifing myself to others yeah

[Dan]

u saying that people expext others to run around after them to do things to there cars but isnt that called a job??? u get paid for it dont u??? if u dont like it then dont work there!!!! all part of ur job!!!

again like u said before with people not doing things themselves, some of us dont no how to do it and if we tried we could get it wrong! spending a bit of cash to get some stuff done, so its done properly aint a bad thing! and i dont mean a light bulb that is just rediculous!!!

[don55]

well fair enough but i dont think u no wat a motor factors is its a shop not a garage yeah

[Scottp]

lol i dont think your a wanker at all mate

was just asking you why you thought etc etc....

under the carpet now anyway mate