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4th March 2006, 05:05
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thats what he is saying, get the lower compression pistons and just run a single gasket, your running to gaskets at the moment to space the head up to lower your compression ratio to keep temps down to bearable levels for your standard pistons
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4th March 2006, 05:27
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listen to Scott, i think you will find in most threads if i dont answer he has, the only reason (and im running twin gaskets and forged low compression pistons) you run twin gaskets is either because at the time you cannot afford forged low compression pistons so £50 is better than ten times that amount, or you use both, I use both as im intending to run silly boost at some time soon so that i can safely run both (silly boost being about 1.5bar or more) where as for most people less than that will give you a great power hike, you can easily achieve 230+ at the wheels with forged low compression pistons and single gasket.
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4th March 2006, 13:55
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excuse me im running a low comp head with a SINGLE gasket the kit ive got doesnt need 2 gaskets to lower the comp all that work was done on the head
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4th March 2006, 15:24
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explain....
how did they make your head larger so to speak?
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4th March 2006, 15:43
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the best way i can is to tell you to go on prima racing under saxo eng conv and a picture of the head is on there
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4th March 2006, 16:41
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doubt you would be able to tell by looking at picture of head mate
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4th March 2006, 16:43
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trust me you can
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4th March 2006, 17:32
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You do know that Prima Racing & Cituning are the same company..?
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4th March 2006, 18:24
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yeah mate course i do thats where i found my conv on primas web site
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4th March 2006, 19:35
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nice turbo
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4th March 2006, 19:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheese
nice turbo
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thanks mate
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4th March 2006, 23:53
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the compresion is lowered by increasing the volume of the combustion chamber!.. nuff said!.
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5th March 2006, 00:39
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which is the same as twin gaskets but probably costs more. do you have a report on how much it lowers the compression by?
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5th March 2006, 05:27
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No it doesnt cost more like I said if you have read properly the compression now is 8.1, and all the work has been done on the head.
I thought you lads knew what you was on about, obviously not.  </font>
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5th March 2006, 15:28
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dumper i fully understand it, obviously more than you as to lower to that then the head would have to be modified extensivly and also it would have to have some form of raised part since the std pistons sit flush with the bottom end, and 2x2mm head gaskets (ie the largest of the repair) would give you more than that about 8.4/6:1) hence why im asking can you prove it.
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5th March 2006, 16:54
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wow, you should always expect problems when you strap a turbo onto a car  , tests the limits of every part on your car LOL and costs a fooking fortune to sort out LOL thats my main concern, but you carnt cut corners as parts will give in eventually. i would get onto cituning and find out exactly what they have done to the car from start to finish. forged pistons are a must if you are intending on running higher boost.
dumper - i would stress to you that Mr Rattys brain is a cataloge of turbo info LOL if he dosnt know the answer for a question regarding forced induction, not many people will.
its a shame you are having probs after spending a wedge on your motor  looks cool tho, im sure it will be a beast when fixed  you will have a big  when driving her LOL
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5th March 2006, 17:19
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thanks boz now ratty listen to me this is the last time all the work was carried out on the head the combustion chambers in the head have been raised to prove this go on primas web site and you WILL see the mod not bein funny with you just look and all will be shown
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5th March 2006, 17:37
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IMO i feel you should listen to Ratty! not the other way around, after all you have the issues with your motor & we are trying to help! i understand that the information about your coversion is on that web site but that does not confirm in any way, that is what they have done to your car! i will eat my hat to that statement if you were there all the time they had your car, but, i like my hat & thats y im confident you were not presant during your conversion being done!
Ratty is full of information none of it is bull or woffle. You should appreitate his input and repect him for it.... his own car is a shinning example.... and will be soon enough even more so.... yes ratty its true i think i know your plans...
You have to understanf tho if your cars in individual and things done to it like no other we YES and RATTY need to know... that maybe y he is asking for proof... after all knowlegde is power!! right!?? think i need a geek in my car to go faster?????
sorry to hear she is sick. it will get sorted tho... chin up
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5th March 2006, 18:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dumper
go on primas web site and you WILL see the mod
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Well it doesn't help that the websites fucked and the citroen section has been down for atleast the last 3 days... maybe you should post a link up for us seeing as you can access the site...
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Originally Posted by dumper
I thought you lads knew what you was on about, obviously not.
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dumper Im sorry but you obviously don't have a clue about turbo's, you didn't even know what size turbo you had fitted to the car… Then you think modifying a head is cheaper/the same price as using twin head gaskets, if it is then your headwork is shit!
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5th March 2006, 18:48
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Well it doesn't help that the websites fucked and the citroen section has been down for atleast the last 3 days... bull shit ive just logged straight on to the site looks like maybe it isnt just my "headwork" thats shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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