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21st November 2007, 23:36
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Originally Posted by leeroybrown
Hurry and get it done you lot less talk more of the "DOING" part
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Wouldnt count on my engine being touched until late summer now. Moving house
is on the cards fo sho!
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21st November 2007, 23:50
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Originally Posted by jeeves_101
some good info there mate.
i should/want to be going standalone, give me abit more scope for future work etc.
tho that price compared to the emerald system seems abit steep!!
iirc emerald is:-
ecu = 681.50
fitting = i can't remember, but they said they supply a harness (included in the ecu price) which will allow you to connect up yourself (they have 106 and saxo harnesses)
mapping = 275
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ermerald is more than that mate, spoke to them about it a few weeks back and the ecu with all wires connectors etc + vat is more than 680
got all the prices on my computer at work will post them up tomorrow
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Last edited by samcook; 21st November 2007 at 23:54.
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21st November 2007, 23:53
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Originally Posted by Toad
Wll done on the work my good man. You are to be congratulated. It's about time we got some prices up for the work required.
On a bad note, according to my calculations, that comes to a whopping £1375! Not cheap by anyone's standards. I'm still waiting for Kam to come back to me with a price for KMS parts. Once I've got some info on that, I'll spread the word.
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is quite expensive but nothing compared to the £1628 gmc quoted me to supply fit and map kms! and travelling to DD isnt a problem plus if rushy sings there praises they must be good lol
price i was given for kms was £915 for ecu, ignition amplifier, and wideband/display
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22nd November 2007, 09:45
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samcook - i'm just going by the prices i was given by emereald, that they gave me?!?!
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22nd November 2007, 10:18
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Problem with some of the prices is the VAT remember. If it says such a such + VAT.
Then you have to add the VAT on top. The engine spec I was looking at is around
3.5k.... But what I didnt realise is thats not inc VAT. So its more like 4k now
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22nd November 2007, 10:21
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well the prices i had from emerald included vat, so not sure why they differed from what sam has.
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22nd November 2007, 10:28
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Well today is now tomorrow so Sam should be at work hunting for that list
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22nd November 2007, 12:09
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this is the info they gave me for the ermerald ecu
Total cost is -
ECU £580
Air Temp Sensor £12.50
Shipping & Insurance £12.50 - by DHL
£605 + VAT @ 17.5% = £710.88
you will also require wires and connectors at an extra cost
If you are handy with a soldering iron you should be able to change the loom-plug. We give you a manual & wiring diagram with the ECU so it's mostly common sense following the wires and matching up your sensors etc. with the pinouts.
Lead time is usually 7-10 days from ordering.
best regards
Leoni
also the mapping for the emrald is £275+vat which £323 with the vat added
and thts without having it fitted, so doesnt work out any cheaper
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22nd November 2007, 14:38
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I got my ecu from www.hiflowheads.co.uk paid £550 for the ecu, they do a deal with the boddies supplied aswell, i believed it was £2k all in for parts inc vat
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22nd November 2007, 21:02
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Think the Omex and Jenveys come to a tad over 2k inc VAT from DD.
Pug1off do a basic bodies setup for £2250. Think they use Jenveys and Emerald.
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22nd November 2007, 23:50
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Well they used omex on my rushy!!
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22nd November 2007, 23:52
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Cool, they mentioned Emerald in the quotes I had. Maybe I requested it
back then. Was some time ago.
As you know about this kind of stuff mate. If I was just to go for the Omex
and the bodies now to cut initial costs. It wouldnt cause me any issues would it?
I know cams work well with the bodies, but I cant stretch that far at the moment
you see. My supersprint would be fitted then too as well as an oil cooler and
catch tank.
Sorry to threadjack.
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23rd November 2007, 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rushy_23
Cool, they mentioned Emerald in the quotes I had. Maybe I requested it
back then. Was some time ago.
As you know about this kind of stuff mate. If I was just to go for the Omex
and the bodies now to cut initial costs. It wouldnt cause me any issues would it?
I know cams work well with the bodies, but I cant stretch that far at the moment
you see. My supersprint would be fitted then too as well as an oil cooler and
catch tank.
Sorry to threadjack.
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why dont you just go omex and cams? then when youve got the cash get the bodies, surely that would make more sense............well its what im doing
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23rd November 2007, 11:09
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Save up and do it all at once.
Rush, you don't need an oil cooler IMO.
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23rd November 2007, 11:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toad
Save up and do it all at once.
Rush, you don't need an oil cooler IMO.
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I cant mate.
Why wouldnt I need an oil cooler? Its just part of the final spec for the time
being.
Getting that and the catch tank leaves me just to get the headwork and cams
done at a later date.
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23rd November 2007, 12:45
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To be honest doing it like that will all end up being more expensive, you will have to get the ecu mapped twice etc....
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23rd November 2007, 13:04
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I just don't think you need an oil cooler mate. I doubt you would get the oil so hot that it would require cooling. Plus, cold oil is obviously a bad thing.
Why can't you do everything in one sitting? What's the hurry to get half done?
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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23rd November 2007, 20:08
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vtr130
To be honest doing it like that will all end up being more expensive, you will have to get the ecu mapped twice etc....
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Will remain on just bodies for a long long time. Then will get lots of headwork
done at a later date. Talking prob over a year later like.
I know people wont agree with it, but Im just going to do it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toad
I just don't think you need an oil cooler mate. I doubt you would get the oil so hot that it would require cooling. Plus, cold oil is obviously a bad thing.
Why can't you do everything in one sitting? What's the hurry to get half done?
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Thought oil coolers would be a useful tool while tracking the car? No hurry really
but I can only budget for around £3k which is what bodies cost inc VAT. I was
let to think that was the price in headwork but forgot about VAT.
Bottom line, Im a twat.
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23rd November 2007, 20:11
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#39
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Well maybe you could buy ryans engine?? Or someone who may be selling theres??
But otherwise you will need the ecu to run the boddies?
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23rd November 2007, 21:12
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Yup looking at the Omex and Jenveys. Inc VAT, mapping and fitting will be close
th 3k..
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