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19th June 2011, 20:17
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just gonna throw this into the equation and ask if you'd use the turbo cams or not?
whats difference would there be in using standard, turbo or ph3/ph4/708/etc?
as in http://www.kamracing.co.uk/citroen/c...s-1321735.html
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19th June 2011, 21:50
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#102
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Originally Posted by Gareth_R
how much?!?!
looks same as the AX Diesel one. Get down a scrapyard!!
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ax diesel and 106 diesel, got mine from the scrap yard for a tenner, pic was just to show
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19th June 2011, 22:37
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#103
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Been offered a manifold and downpipe for a t3/t4 turbo, what turbo could you run off this for 1.6 16v.
Should i go for this or get one suited to a t2/25
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19th June 2011, 22:53
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#104
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quikydan
Been offered a manifold and downpipe for a t3/t4 turbo, what turbo could you run off this for 1.6 16v.
Should i go for this or get one suited to a t2/25
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if you want one that spooled by you will be looking at a gt17 or something..
not many quick spooling turbos that have t3 fitment. t2/25 is what you need
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19th June 2011, 23:01
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Originally Posted by dannygti
if you want one that spooled by you will be looking at a gt17 or something..
not many quick spooling turbos that have t3 fitment. t2/25 is what you need
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Thanks Danny,
Great help mate.
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19th June 2011, 23:13
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#106
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quikydan
Thanks Danny,
Great help mate.
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whats your budget for the turbo? there is a great garret turbo that would make for a proper road monster
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19th June 2011, 23:16
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i have no budgets, BUT, i don't want to spend stupid money on the entire build so everything isn't going to be 'brand new best possible parts you can get' sorta thing.
Want to achieve 200 - 220 atw, pred ecu, decomp plate.
want to spend sub 4k really.
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19th June 2011, 23:20
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#108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quikydan
i have no budgets, BUT, i don't want to spend stupid money on the entire build so everything isn't going to be 'brand new best possible parts you can get' sorta thing.
Want to achieve 200 - 220 atw, pred ecu, decomp plate.
want to spend sub 4k really.
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dnt think anyone on this scene has used this turbo, but it looks a great turbo for fast road use. small, potent and would spool as quick as youd ever want
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...9_452214_3.htm
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Last edited by dannygti; 19th June 2011 at 23:27.
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19th June 2011, 23:22
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#109
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what turbo is that?
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19th June 2011, 23:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quikydan
what turbo is that?
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sorry pal, edited my previous post with a link
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19th June 2011, 23:34
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Im not really clued up on this tbh but i noticed its oil cooling which is easier than water too.
Does the graph show that its at peak power at quite high psi or am i reading it wrong?
I take it something like this would be around 500 - 700 new?
Fancy making me a manifold?
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19th June 2011, 23:39
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#112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quikydan
Im not really clued up on this tbh but i noticed its oil cooling which is easier than water too.
Does the graph show that its at peak power at quite high psi or am i reading it wrong?
I take it something like this would be around 500 - 700 new?
Fancy making me a manifold?
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if your looking at the compressor map then you have to take into consideration atmospheric pressure is 1 bar already. so if you look at 2.5bar on the map then its really 1.5bar of turbo pressure.quite difficult to understand.
yes, imagine it would be around that cost.
unfortunatly mate i no longer have the resources
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19th June 2011, 23:45
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Really in two minds what to do, been looking at the dp engineering kits for around 1600 with the gt25 turbo but then im not sure on a budget alternative that i could run.
Theres the cituing (miltek) mani and downpipe for 455 but what turbo could i bolt on that and then i have the problem of getting oil feed from sump which comes in the dp kit already.
Ahhh, that's a shame about the manifold. Know anyone else that can make a home brew one up (reasonable quality) thats more budget than the cituning?
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19th June 2011, 23:53
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#114
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oil feed snd returtn is easy just go to local hydraulics place got both for 20 when i did mine
the cituning kit will take a gt17 found on saab 9-3 and 9-5s or a t25 off a saab 9000, but can get td04 in cituning fittment to plenty of choice
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19th June 2011, 23:57
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Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush
oil feed snd returtn is easy just go to local hydraulics place got both for 20 when i did mine
the cituning kit will take a gt17 found on saab 9-3 and 9-5s or a t25 off a saab 9000, but can get td04 in cituning fittment to plenty of choice
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That's good to know. Thanks.
I might just buy the cituning manifold and down pipe. It sounds like it'll be good enough for what i need. Is the gt17 not too small for 200 - 220 atw? can't see the specs on the garrett website.
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20th June 2011, 00:06
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#116
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td04 its what mathias has his is around 200 speak to deekb for link to turbo as he found a place selling new good price
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20th June 2011, 00:20
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#117
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turbo advise
im looking to put a turbo on my 01 vtr and was told a kit of a starlet turbo can be fitted on is this true? thanks
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20th June 2011, 03:13
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#118
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quikydan
That's good to know. Thanks.
I might just buy the cituning manifold and down pipe. It sounds like it'll be good enough for what i need. Is the gt17 not too small for 200 - 220 atw? can't see the specs on the garrett website.
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i use a gt17, made 200 atw (230atf) at 9.5 psi without a decomp plate and i ran more boost with no issues. turbo begins to spool at 1,500 and holds to 7,000. it gives a very smooth power delivery making it very useable and capable of putting the power down very very well.
shameless plug - i am contemplating advertising all my turbo bits and management for sale. pm me if interesed.
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20th June 2011, 09:48
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#119
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Originally Posted by maddison_vts
i use a gt17, made 200 atw (230atf) at 9.5 psi without a decomp plate and i ran more boost with no issues. turbo begins to spool at 1,500 and holds to 7,000. it gives a very smooth power delivery making it very useable and capable of putting the power down very very well.
shameless plug - i am contemplating advertising all my turbo bits and management for sale. pm me if interesed.
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if you are pm me with full list of bits and price i've got a guy wanting to 16v turbo
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20th June 2011, 09:51
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#120
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lool i just pmed as well
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