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15th July 2007, 17:10
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Hi there,
I've just bought a completely standard 2001 MK2 VTR and I want to upgrade the stock CD Player and Speakers to something better. What are my best options for doing this?
A new headunit is a must, I quite like the look of the Alpine ones. Can anyone recommend one? Preferably with an iPod connection but not essential. And I suppose the front components need to be changed aswell. Again, which ones should I got for?
What sort of result would I get by just changing these two? Do I have to get an Amp & Sub aswell? I would rather not have the hassle of having to install these, and theres obviously the cost issue aswell. If I could get decent performance by just changing the headunit and speakers then I'm all for it.
I haven't got a fixed budget but I'd obviously ot want to spend huge amounts. Around £250 as a guide.
Cheers to anyone who can help with this.
Mike
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15th July 2007, 18:12
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Cheers for the reply platty.
I was looking at that Apline headunit earlier, best one to go for then?
Which option would you personally go for. Unless it's going to make a massive difference I'd rather have the one without the amp. What about a sub? Not needed?
Also, what about the rear speakers? Do I leave them in?
Thanks again.
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15th July 2007, 20:39
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id have the boston s50s mate and they sound a lot better amped up rather than hooked up to the headunit
rear speakers arent necessary in a small car, amped components up front are ample
also worth sound deadening the doors
you can get a good sub and amp deal for about 110 delivered or 100 picked up, id recommend just getting a headunit, amp, components, wiring and sound deadening for now
then add a sub and another amp later
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15th July 2007, 22:54
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I would go with Pred, as he helped me with my set up! How ever Platty has also give you some very good info for you to think of! Best of luck kiddo
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16th July 2007, 18:07
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id have the boston s50s mate and they sound a lot better amped up rather than hooked up to the headunit
rear speakers arent necessary in a small car, amped components up front are ample
also worth sound deadening the doors
you can get a good sub and amp deal for about 110 delivered or 100 picked up, id recommend just getting a headunit, amp, components, wiring and sound deadening for now
then add a sub and another amp later
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What products would you suggest I get then? Is it difficult to wire an Amp up at the back?
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17th July 2007, 00:17
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I personally would only spend £80 on a headunit if you have a budget of £250. That gives you more to sped on speakers and an amp that will give you more gain per £. Wiring a amp up is easy as long as you have some basic DIY knowedge.
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17th July 2007, 01:04
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i suggest you get:0-
boston s50s up front - 90 pounds
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/bost...cf8fa8d5da0fd0
kenwood headunit - 44 pound
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KENWOOD-KDC-23...QQcmdZViewItem
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another kenwood but comes with lead - 58 pounds
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KENWOOD-KDC-W3...QQcmdZViewItem
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another kenwood - with adaptor - 85 pounds
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/prod...fm_p-22561.htm
tbh just keep a look out for some deals on ebay mate, alpine, pioneer, clarion and kenwood are the ones to get imo
so then you will have about 70 - 100 for an amp, just get one for the components for now than add another amp and sub later
jbl amp about 60 pound, includes a wiring kit but when you get it sell it on and get a 4 gauge wiring kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-GTO-2060-5...QQcmdZViewItem
same again but woithout wiring kit, but this amp is perfect to wire up a low powered sub, so you wouldnt need another amp when you come to buy a sub, it would have to be a 150 rms sub though
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JBL-GTO-4000-4...QQcmdZViewItem
then the rest of the money if any get a decent wiring kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Autoleads-PC4-...QQcmdZViewItem
i may have spent a bit over depending on which headunit you get but will be a very good system
a sub and amp would set you back about 100 so you can save for that after you have bought this
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17th July 2007, 08:36
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wer would the bostons go? just replace the standard front speaker?
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17th July 2007, 13:01
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Predator_VTR I've added you on MSN if thats alright. Easier to discuss it that way and you seem pretty clued up.
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17th July 2007, 15:14
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yeah mate ill be on later ok
the bostons will go in the front doors and replace the standards, you will have to wire the crossover to the amp though
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17th July 2007, 21:28
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You about at the moment mate?
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17th July 2007, 21:39
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yeah i tryed to go on msn but theres an error when i log on so just pm me bud
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17th July 2007, 21:51
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Ahh Ok I'll just post here.
Whats It worth spending on a Head Unit. Some people spec £140 ones, others spec £50 ones...? Alpine CDE-9850Ri seems to be a popular one, Looking over a few on eBay that shouldn't go above £100.
For components I'm considering the Alpine SXS-1357's and the Boston S50's, Is the £40~ price difference really worth it?
I'm leaning towards just changing the Head Unit and Front Speakers option at the moment as I need to see how it sounds. If It ends up leaving alot to be desired then I'll have to consider adding in a Amp & Sub. How does that sound?
Also is there a decent guide on taking the standard HU out?
Cheers
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17th July 2007, 21:58
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yeah doesnt really matter how much the headunit is tbh, just make sure its got a preout on it at least, stick with alpine, pioneer, clarion and kenwood headunits
you dont need two sets of components in a car of this size, if it was a bigger car then yes, but the fronts will fill the car more and its you that your buying them for
as for just buying speakers and a headunit its ok but you wont be getting the best out of the components until you amp them up, i think you should be able to get a headunit, amp, components and wiring for 250 at least, just depends on what headunit you buy tbh
go into the stickies/FAQs i did do a basic guide on how to do things
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17th July 2007, 22:05
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£250 is not a fixed budget, I'm willing to spend more if its worth it. I want to get the best I can for my money.
Sorry, I meant that I'm considering either of those component speakers. I dont plan to buy both.
Ahh just seen your guide, thanks, don't know how I missed it!
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17th July 2007, 22:08
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you will be able to get yourself a good set up but id highly recommend an amp for the components
ill find you a good amp so you can power a set of components and leaving the two other channels to bridge for to add a sub later, therefore youd only need a sub and box after that
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17th July 2007, 22:16
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Originally Posted by Predator_VTR
ill find you a good amp so you can power a set of components and leaving the two other channels to bridge for to add a sub later, therefore youd only need a sub and box after that
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That would be great, cheers.
How do I go about getting my front speakers out? I think they are fixed in with rivets.
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18th July 2007, 19:18
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Ok just bought a Alpine CDE-9850Ri for £116, thats the headunit sorted. Now to decide on speakers, sub and an amp if necessary.
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18th July 2007, 19:23
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in the basic FAQs it will explain a lot in there mate
get the speakers and then ill find a amp for you ok
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