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Old 3rd November 2008, 15:10   #1
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Default **GROUPBUY** Innovate LC-1 wideband sensor for the Predator ecu

Thought I'd initially test the water on whether or not there is any intrest for a groupbuy on the Innovate LC-1 wideband lambda sensor, if you are buying a Predator ecu then this will be right up your street.



These are to be used with the Predator standalone ecu developed by Datshiift, when the car is mapped with the Predator they will fit this exact wideband sensor to get accurate fuel/air mixture, once mapping is complete they remove this wideband and put the narrowband back on, more detailed info & indeed video's can be found here, for the blink of you out there you can buy air/fuel gauges also

--UPDATE 5/11/8--

These usually RRP for £165.00 +delivery each, the best discounted price I have got bearing in mind the poor pound to the dollar is £133 delivered.

--UPDATE 5/11/8--


Payment details will be presented once I get an idea of intrest & numbers.

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FYI - the LC-1 can permanently be left installed in your car post Predator install, and the ECU can have a wideband input sent to it, and it can constantly correct the fueling as you drive, which is far better than a narrowband Sensor.

The LC-1 has 2 outputs, so 1 can go to the dashboard to a sexy gauge, and 1 to the Predator for fuelling corrections.

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Cheers for the addition Andy, I was hoping you would offer a bit more info

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I'd be pretty interested in one of these too, anything to make driving a saxo more bearable
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Old 3rd November 2008, 16:51   #5
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Welcome aboard Mystic

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Old 4th November 2008, 09:01   #6
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PM'd a few guys to see if there intrested also.

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So what would the benefits be of having this installed? Better MPG? Sorry just electronics etc. just baffle me! LOL

But I am very interested....
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What’s the difference between narrowband and wideband?

Wide Band

  • Shows Actual Air/Fuel ratio.
  • Precise display of ratio on the rich side of “stoichiometric”, which is where all performance engines run. Usually displays Air /Fuel ratio to the second decimal place.
  • Useful for maximizing power from race and other performance engines.
  • Fully temperature compensated.
  • Higher cost.

Narrow Band
  • Shows indication of rich vs lean.
  • Usually has very “coarse” display of ratio on the rich side of “stoichiometric. Some units only have 2 LEDs for the entire rich range!
  • Really only useful for making sure your engine is not running on the lean side.
  • Usually not temperature compensated, so the same air/fuel condition in the motor will result in an indication on the meter that will vary depending on sensor temperature.
  • Low cost.


Bottom Line:

You need wideband in your life if you want a smooth running engine which provides the most accurate fueling thus offering better bhp when you press the loud pedal.

We only have one more place for this groupbuy so be quick about it...
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Very interested dependant on final price, this would be used on a emerald though so im guessing it is still compatible.
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Very interested dependant on final price, this would be used on a emerald though so im guessing it is still compatible.
Hi,

Pretty sure the LC-1 will work with your Emerald ecu.

Right now its looking like its £130 delivered which from all the looking round Ive done is pretty cheap, were you hoping for somthing even cheaper???

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Nah thats sounds pretty reasonable mate, emerald has the correct function for this so it wont be a problem.

But as you say the more people interested the cheaper it is

One quick question will the wide band lambda screw into the original lambda sleeve? or is it a different thread size and pitch?
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Nah thats sounds pretty reasonable mate, emerald has the correct function for this so it wont be a problem.

But as you say the more people interested the cheaper it is
I see where you coming from matey but I do want to try and sort this by the 22/11/08, have the Predator being fitted by Andy then you see...

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One quick question will the wide band lambda screw into the original lambda sleeve? or is it a different thread size and pitch?
Good question, Andy has been fitting these to Racelands for a while now so I guess the right sleeve is already there.

You think you could commit to £130 by the 20/11/08???

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Yes mate put me down.

This is another thing on my list to get so will save alot of hassle later on.

Want to be able to get my emerald fitted and mapped/tweaked ready for next season.
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Yes mate put me down.

This is another thing on my list to get so will save alot of hassle later on.

Want to be able to get my emerald fitted and mapped/tweaked ready for next season.
Well done matey, I will leave this groupbuy open as long as I can as like yourself want to try and get the most discount available

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Ok matey
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Ill deffo have one, ive been thinking about this for a while just havn't got a decent ECU sorted yet.
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Ill deffo have one, ive been thinking about this for a while just havn't got a decent ECU sorted yet.
Excellent stuff Ste, I'll stick you down on the list, we need 1 more to get the 5 off price

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How hard would this be to wire up to gauge? Simple plug in job or would it need soldering etc?

And how are we paying for this? As i'm abit paranoid at the minute! LOL
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How hard would this be to wire up to gauge? Simple plug in job or would it need soldering etc?
The guage is piss easy, simply plug the Innovate gauge into the spare port on the controller, dont get any easier, shall confirm this however tommorow.

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And how are we paying for this? As i'm abit paranoid at the minute! LOL
Payment will be made direct to the supplier, I the groupbuy organise is not involved in anyway with the payment side of things, infact I would recommend everyone pay on a creditcard as this is a secured means of payment. I am hoping to provide a phone number to everyone allowing them to make payment over the phone. Hope this is OK.

Dannyhall, are we saying we now have 5 people in this groupbuy

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