omex ecu - Page 4 - Saxperience

samcook · 5th October 2007, 09:21

contacted emerald last night and this was there responce, for your benefit toad mate

Hi Sam,
We can supply you with an ECU (£580+shipping+vat) for your engine but we don't get involved in the fitting side of it. We do the mapping for £275+vat, which is a flat rate. The ecu will read the stock sensors on that engine and if you are running it normally aspirated you will just have to install an air temp sensor.
If you want to have someone do the installation for you we give technical support until the engine starts & runs. If you want us to recommend someone let us know where in the country you are.

We are booking in late November for the rolling road and lead time for orders is roughly 7-10 days.
I will attach a copy of the brochure & K3 manual so you can see what is involved in the installation.
best regards

Toad · 5th October 2007, 09:48

Thanks for that.

That still leaves the issue of getting it all wired in though... I'm still thinking GMC, as they will do everything for me. KMS ECU, wideband, KMS DTH iTBs, all loom etc, etc, and fitting and mapping for just under £3k including VAT.

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 09:56

You could get the ecu and a loomed made up for 1500 quid cheap then 3k from GMC

samcook · 5th October 2007, 10:04

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Originally Posted by Toad

Thanks for that.

That still leaves the issue of getting it all wired in though... I'm still thinking GMC, as they will do everything for me. KMS ECU, wideband, KMS DTH iTBs, all loom etc, etc, and fitting and mapping for just under £3k including VAT.

there getting back to me with dealers in my area they recommend for fitting,
the thing that is putting me off kms is the fact that people have been having problems with it

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 10:13

My mate ran his thottle bodied VTS on a emerald ecu and the options on there ecu is immense tbh

You can buy a apdator plug from Emerald down load the software from there website, plug the lead into your laptop and watch live what the car is doing, you can also change some the settings, such as rev limiter, shift light etc

The new ecu's have a self map type software ready on them to use

Come highly recommend tbh

samcook · 5th October 2007, 10:17

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Originally Posted by leeroybrown

My mate ran his thottle bodied VTS on a emerald ecu and the options on there ecu is immense tbh

You can buy a apdator plug from Emerald down load the software from there website, plug the lead into your laptop and watch live what the car is doing, you can also change some the settings, such as rev limiter, shift light etc

The new ecu's have a self map type software ready on them to use

Come highly recommend tbh

where did he have the ecu fitted?
does the emerald ecu come with launch control?

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 10:18

His was fitted at Hiflow which is miles away for you

Yep his had the launch control on it and tbh it wasnt that hard to wire it you yourself

samcook · 5th October 2007, 10:24

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Originally Posted by leeroybrown

His was fitted at Hiflow which is miles away for you

Yep his had the launch control on it and tbh it wasnt that hard to wire it you yourself

yeh emerald sed its pretty simple to wire in your self aslong as you have the diagrams to hand! but id rather have it installed and mapped all at the same pace to be fair

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 10:26

Installing a shift light as well was very easy with the Emerald

U can get the shift light to say 7300 rpm but have the rev limiter at 7800 rpm

Toad · 5th October 2007, 10:49

All very interesting.

Sam, let's see if there's any where local that will do all the installation work for the Emerald ECU. Are you going to go with the bodies? It would be pointless not doing so IMO. Then we could see if we could get a discount on all the parts too!

samcook · 5th October 2007, 10:57

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Originally Posted by Toad

All very interesting.

Sam, let's see if there's any where local that will do all the installation work for the Emerald ECU. Are you going to go with the bodies? It would be pointless not doing so IMO. Then we could see if we could get a discount on all the parts too!

i might dependant on prices, just i wanted to get cams and standlone for the time being so then when i fancy extra power i can go for bodies also once ive recovered from the cost of this lol, i looked on that mech tuning site the place in cheltenham and they look quite good might contact them about getting everything fitted and mapped, would you be up for having the work done there if they are willing to do it?, as you have said from past experience they do a good job

Toad · 5th October 2007, 11:04

The guy there was awesome. They are notorious for giving out low readings on the RR, but they will make your car run much faster. Hehe. How it should be done...

SO, you haven't done much to the engine at present then? I'll take this opportunity to tell you something then. Don't just fit the camshafts and get the car mapped, IF you plan at some later date to fit TBs. You will waste a lot of money. Basically mate, you're looking at the cost of camshafts as being your only extra to what I will be getting. So, let's say that's around £300. Look what I've paid already for my car: Mapping = £450, installation labour = £100. So this is money I've lost, and you will lose as well... Think about it, you know it makes sense.

samcook · 5th October 2007, 11:08

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Originally Posted by Toad

The guy there was awesome. They are notorious for giving out low readings on the RR, but they will make your car run much faster. Hehe. How it should be done...

SO, you haven't done much to the engine at present then? I'll take this opportunity to tell you something then. Don't just fit the camshafts and get the car mapped, IF you plan at some later date to fit TBs. You will waste a lot of money. Basically mate, you're looking at the cost of camshafts as being your only extra to what I will be getting. So, let's say that's around £300. Look what I've paid already for my car: Mapping = £450, installation labour = £100. So this is money I've lost, and you will lose as well... Think about it, you know it makes sense.

already got 708 catcams sat in the box at home, was looking for a standalone unit to go with them, and the engines standard with breathing mods atm!

how much would mech tuning charge to fit cams and a new cambelt do you reckon?

Toad · 5th October 2007, 11:17

Arg. Even if I did know, I'm not telling you!

Haha.

Don't rush this. Think about all that I've said, and be reasonable. Re-map of stock ECU with 708s isn't going to ge the best out of your car. End of story. Purchasing a standalone and having that wired in and mapped with the 708s is the correct way forward. However, if you want iTBs, it would be wise to do this all at the sime time. I think this is the perfect point to draw the line at, as if you want wilder cams / more power, then you are looking at BIG changes in the engine.

Mystic^p · 5th October 2007, 11:22

Leeroy, dont suppose you could find out how much your mate paid at hiflow could you?

I've always been in 2 opinions about where the cars going so to cover my bases i think i might go stand alone with my cams atm!

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 11:24

What do you want a price on mate

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 11:25

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Don't rush this. Think about all that I've said, and be reasonable. Re-map of stock ECU with 708s isn't going to ge the best out of your car. End of story. Purchasing a standalone and having that wired in and mapped with the 708s is the correct way forward. However, if you want iTBs, it would be wise to do this all at the sime time. I think this is the perfect point to draw the line at, as if you want wilder cams / more power, then you are looking at BIG changes in the engine.

TBH if you just want to have your car cammed and not bother with the boddies remapped ECU is fine tbh you aint going to get that much more out of it with a standalone

If your going for boddies then you have to go for the standalone

Mystic^p · 5th October 2007, 11:29

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Originally Posted by leeroybrown

What do you want a price on mate

Hmm, good quesion

What did you mate have done at hiflow? Just the fitting or was it mapped there too?

I would probably have them fit it but im not sure where i would have it mapped atm.

samcook · 5th October 2007, 11:31

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Originally Posted by leeroybrown

TBH if you just want to have your car cammed and not bother with the boddies remapped ECU is fine tbh you aint going to get that much more out of it with a standalone

If your going for boddies then you have to go for the standalone

yeh understand that but thing is i want standalone for the fact it gives me the oppotunity further down the line to go bodies if i want to!

Toad mate are you keeping standard bottom end? and would the bodies work wel with a standard engine 708s and standalone?

leeroybrown · 5th October 2007, 11:35

He had a stage 4 head

R6 throttle bodies

Emerald ECU fitted into the Loam

Bog Brothers Inlet manifold

and other bits and bobs

Loam was £250