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Old 1st March 2013, 18:04   #121
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just had a look at my spare head, diff numbers again, but theyre defo not news just checked both my sets of ph3's

oil leak, above lower gear box mount..... is there any on the block? or on the head above it, theres a pressure port bottom back corner of the head 6mm allen key if iirc check that oil can be coming from loads of places and pool in one....

that oil really does look shiiite as in bore washed shiiite
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Old 1st March 2013, 18:08   #122
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I dont know if you can fit them wrong as ive always marked them up. However after seeing my mates (both pug techs) being extremely carefull marking them up. I would guess it is possible. The bearings are in the same places etc.
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Yeah I was going to say that the oil has a pearlescent look to it
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Old 1st March 2013, 18:14   #124
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I agree oil looks shit, the oil that leaked however wasn't similar, and checking dip stick all levels are fine.

I have driven this car probably 100 miles since collection last wednesday, no idea how many they put on it "testing" it but I fear its all fucked now

I was told "708s or ph3s" I bet they're standard though.
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I agree oil looks shit, the oil that leaked however wasn't similar, and checking dip stick all levels are fine.

I have driven this car probably 100 miles since collection last wednesday, no idea how many they put on it "testing" it but I fear its all fucked now

I was told "708s or ph3s" I bet they're standard though.
Was the oil on the floor the same colour as in the engine?

What's to say standard engine oil wasn't used in the gear box? Seen it done before.
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Oil on the floor was brand new golden oil, if it was crankshaft surely that would be same colour as the stuff in the engine.
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Oil on the floor was brand new golden oil, if it was crankshaft surely that would be same colour as the stuff in the engine.
Yes it would.
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Oil on the floor was brand new golden oil, if it was crankshaft surely that would be same colour as the stuff in the engine.
If it its standard engine oil in the gear box will likely leak because it too thin for the seals
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Possibly,possibly not. Dont forget the head deals with all the breathers too. Amd if its mega overfueling /bent valves/vpoor cam timing theres gonna be fuel vapour there too. It doesnt look right though
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Hi this is xxxxxxxx girlfriend, believe you spoke xxxxxx last sat, and said U was gona txt. You must txt after he's left, he's away with some mate until next sat, they wheat from the unit to airport and he left his phone in the car. Don't worry he's not ignoring you. I will speak to him later off one lad phone. And get back to you. Sorry for tht. Xxxxx. x
message received from the mechanics bird, stalling tactics anyone?
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I don't believe valves are bent. Only on idle is it terrible, after 4-5k it is really really quick and drives fine genuinely fine, surely a bent valve would make it drive like spanners all the time?
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My guess is on timing from reading through and watching the video, if i was you id move it a tooth forward or back and see if it improves or makes worse if it makes it worse go the other way ... not even that much of a job could do it in less than a hour and cross that off the list
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Cheers Andy, but I'm no mechanic and wouldn't know where to start, not only that but I have limited tools for things like this which is why I paid someone a small fortune to do it
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I bought a ropey gti a few years back with a knocking motor. Still drove it home.pulled the motor apart to find the oil pump was basically shagged. The bearings where shot, the cam beraings where shot. So much so i could move the cams in the head (with belt off) had 8 bent valves, the undercrown oil jets where all in the sump and the pistons where scored to shit. But it still drove. And not horrifically.
Only the sump was really any use
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Its really not as hard as its made out theres a load of guides on here to do it would be easier to do it then change one, and you would just need a decent socket set. Your miles away or id offer to come over and help you.
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As I said with the metro Gti the valve was only very slightly bent, so it would still rev up to the limiter ok and all that but the idle was awful. I mean that's a long shot mind you but never the less something to consider
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Ahh you lot are so reassuring at times <3
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Hopefully it wont be too severe but best having plenty of minds on it. As said before its a shame your miles away as id like to have a nose over this.
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have you checked the injectors yet?
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