The BIG Modern Warfare 2 Thread

[Toad]

Originally Posted by GrantW

How do you know? The silencer only appears to reduce the range on the stats. What about FMJ added? With and without stopping power?

There are kind people out in Internet world who put all the stats together. I studied all the stats for COD4, as they were well documented. Stats for COD MW2 are not official yet, but people have already put together some decent enough info. IGNORE the in-game weapon stats, they are competely wrong.

Just some basic info, as it will take me too long to explain it all:

You have 100 hitpoints. Most weapons have a max and min damage, but some always have max - I will explain later. A weapon's Range is how far its bullet will travel before it loses power. Let's take the M4A1 as an example. The M4A1 has a damage rating of 30 - 20. This means that its bullets will do a max damage of 30 and a minimum damage of 20. What determines the bullet damage is Range. Range is typically set by the category of the weapon, such as Assult Rifle, SMG, etc. So, the M4A1's bullets will do 30 damage if they hit the enemy within a certain Range. So imagine the Range to be a given distance on a map. Once the bullet passes this threshold, there's an 'x' amount of distance (pretty much un-calculable) where the damge drops in between max and min damage. Just to confuse things, Sniper Rifles and Light Machine Guns are not effected by Range, therefore they always deal their maximum bullet damage. Unless of course the bullet is obstructed by an object, but that's a whole other topic. Pistols have the least range, closely followed by the SMGs. Assult rifles have pretty good range. A rough estimate would be perhaps around 2/3's of the length of the Scrapyard map.

Silencers reduce Range. In COD4, I think they reduced Range by about 50% So it's likely to be about the same in MF2. So if you are using a SMG with a silencer, your gun will have very little range, resulting in bullet power being reduced from as little as 15 metres...

In COD4, silencers were not available for Sniper Rifles or LMGs, so the rules have been rewritten. I'm not 100% what happens to LMG's, but with Sniper Rifles, their 70 base damage is reduced to 50!

To answer your questions about Snipers:

ALL sniper rifles to a base damage of 70.
Stopping Power multiplies damage by 1.4
Sniper rifles receive damage multipliers to different areas of the body. Differs, depending on which rifle too.


For example, the .50 Cal receives the following multipliers:

Head - 1.5
Neck - 1.4
Chest - 1.4
Stomach - 1.1
Anywhere else - 1.0

With the .50 Cal, if you are using Stopping Power, with no Silencer, and hit the enemy in the stomach, the following happens: 70 base damage x 1.4 (Stopping Power) x 1.1 (multiplier) = a OHK.

Sniper Rifles are the ONLY weapons to get different damage multipliers, HOWEVER, all guns give a damage multiplier for shots to the head, which is 1.5.

Finally, Full Metal Jacket bullets do NOT increase damage. They increase the bullet's penetration amount, so making them slightly more effective when passing through objects.

[Toad]

After reading through what I just wrote, I didn't really make it clear about the distance 'x' where the bullet's damage changes from max to min. Basically, this 'x' amount is very small, so bullets typically do a max amount of damage and a minimum.

Here's some weapon stats for you lucky peeps:

Assault rifle:

M4: 30-20 @ 780
Scar-H: 40-30 @ 600
FAMAS: 40-30
M16: 40-30
ACR: 30-20 @ 720
TAR-21 : 40-30 @ 700
FN FAL: 50-35
F2000: 30-20 @ 875
Ak-47: 40-30 @ 650

SMG:

Mp5K:40-20 @ 720
P90:30-20 @ 910
UZI:30-20 @ 900
vector:30-20 @ 900
UMP:40 - 35 @ 600

LMG:

(silenced)

L86: 40-40 (30-30) @ 725
RPD: 40 -40 (30-30) @ 630
MG4: 30 -30 (20-20) @ 725
AUG: 40-40 (30-30) @ 600
m240: 30-30 (20-20) @ 910

handgun:

USP: 40-30
magnum: 50-35
m9: 40-30
Desert Eagle: 50-30

Machine pistol

pp2000: 40-20 @800
glock: 30-20 @ 880
m93: 40-20
TMP: 30-20 @ 820

Sniper:

70 normal, 50 silenced

(head, chest, stomach,)

Intervention: 1.5 - 1.5 - 1.1
Barret: 1.5 - 1.5 - 1.1
WA2000: 1.5 - 1.5 - 1
M21 EBR: 1.5 - 1.1 - 1


Make note of the UMP's minimum bullet damge: 35!!! This makes it an absolute monster! So WITHOUT stopping power, from as far away as you want, it will only take 3 bullets to kill the enemy: 35 x 35 x 35 > 100!

[Matt67]

Just play hardcore.. problem solved.

[Viper]

but hardcore is shit

[Jo3fish]

Originally Posted by Matt67

Just play hardcore.. problem solved.

This.

Silencer + HBS , cold blooded, ninja, bling.

Claymores.



Joe

[shady22]

Originally Posted by Toad

After reading through what I just wrote, I didn't really make it clear about the distance 'x' where the bullet's damage changes from max to min. Basically, this 'x' amount is very small, so bullets typically do a max amount of damage and a minimum.

Here's some weapon stats for you lucky peeps:

Assault rifle:

M4: 30-20 @ 780
Scar-H: 40-30 @ 600
FAMAS: 40-30
M16: 40-30
ACR: 30-20 @ 720
TAR-21 : 40-30 @ 700
FN FAL: 50-35
F2000: 30-20 @ 875
Ak-47: 40-30 @ 650

SMG:

Mp5K:40-20 @ 720
P90:30-20 @ 910
UZI:30-20 @ 900
vector:30-20 @ 900
UMP:40 - 35 @ 600

LMG:

(silenced)

L86: 40-40 (30-30) @ 725
RPD: 40 -40 (30-30) @ 630
MG4: 30 -30 (20-20) @ 725
AUG: 40-40 (30-30) @ 600
m240: 30-30 (20-20) @ 910

handgun:

USP: 40-30
magnum: 50-35
m9: 40-30
Desert Eagle: 50-30

Machine pistol

pp2000: 40-20 @800
glock: 30-20 @ 880
m93: 40-20
TMP: 30-20 @ 820

Sniper:

70 normal, 50 silenced

(head, chest, stomach,)

Intervention: 1.5 - 1.5 - 1.1
Barret: 1.5 - 1.5 - 1.1
WA2000: 1.5 - 1.5 - 1
M21 EBR: 1.5 - 1.1 - 1


Make note of the UMP's minimum bullet damge: 35!!! This makes it an absolute monster! So WITHOUT stopping power, from as far away as you want, it will only take 3 bullets to kill the enemy: 35 x 35 x 35 > 100!

cheers for that mate

[Ferg]

Lol Toad has too much time on his hands.

[stinkycheese]

wow you lot take this too serious

[bootsey]

Originally Posted by stinkycheese

wow you lot take this too serious

+1

[markymark1987]

Originally Posted by stinkycheese

wow you lot take this too serious

Originally Posted by bootsey

+1

+2

i just like to take my anger out on some mother fudgers lol but end up getting more angry due to camping so and so's lol

end of the day its just a game who gives a shizzle how you calculate how much a bullit hurts them press the button few times and pow hes dead haha

[MrHoustonp]

Well. i've just completed it after 2 days of owning it lol. Epic game and will be playing online when I sort my live out

[James106]

Whats your gamertag mate ?

[ad_182_uk]

javelin noooooobs how is there ne skill in it.

[James106]

Originally Posted by ad_182_uk

javelin noooooobs how is there ne skill in it.

Haha guilty

[Saxoladlesta]

I had a go for a laugh

[craigy_87]

javelin feckers
akimbo model's
2 things which make me want to punch myself in the sacks

i do however like to be abit of a prick an run around stabbin ppl with lightweight on

[Azrael]

Originally Posted by craigy_87

...2 things which make me want to punch myself in the sacks...

Dear God Craigy, you have two ballsacks?!!!!

That's fooked up!

[smiith]

Have to say, i was using Akimbo Silenced P90, it had mega lols in the airport

[fossie]

TBF i use the .50 cal with a silencer and normally get OHK's.....

[craigy_87]

oohhh been doing abit of care package running, its just silly lol