skate park session (bmx) - Saxperience

don55 · 25th January 2009, 00:22

hi all, i went to my local park with a few mates today to try my hand at flash work, ona dn off camera.

most of my shots were with 2 off camera flashes (older cheap ones jsut used for remote) and a metz on camera flash.

now although im very happy with how most came out, they werent exactly what i was after, i wanted to darked the back ground much more but didnt have the flash power to get through the narrow app.

most were taken with 2/3 flashes and 1/200sec and f12-f16, any higher and i see nothing.

where am i going wrong, or am i jsut lacking flash to overpower the daylight, what flashes could i use to get a better result ?

here are a few of the best

one a bit different

Barry123 · 25th January 2009, 00:30

a LOT better than the original flash shite you posted

Barry123 · 25th January 2009, 00:31

in answer to your questions...

any higher than 200/250 then you'll exceed you max. flash sync speed.

also at f/11 - f/16 you'll be demanding full power out of the flash and that may still not be enough.... get more powerful flashes

don55 · 25th January 2009, 00:32

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Originally Posted by adsayer

a LOT better than the original flash shite you posted

not sure to what you are referring, but cheers.

i think

answer my question tho bitch

don55 · 25th January 2009, 00:34

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Originally Posted by adsayer

in answer to your questions...

any higher than 200/250 then you'll exceed you max. flash sync speed.

also at f/11 - f/16 you'll be demanding full power out of the flash and that may still not be enough.... get more powerful flashes

think more powerful flashes are the only way forward. but i cant aford any so ill jsut wait till it gets a little darker. unless i can find some old manual ones that are GN50 or somehting

Barry123 · 25th January 2009, 00:34

oh and if you're using Canon IR to remote flash you can use the high speed sync function so you can exceed the 200/250 sync speed of the camera... but it saps power and isn't all that powerful.

Basically you can flash at up 1/8000 using it

Barry123 · 25th January 2009, 00:35

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Originally Posted by don55

think more powerful flashes are the only way forward. but i cant aford any so ill jsut wait till it gets a little darker. unless i can find some old manual ones that are GN50 or somehting

another thing you can do is zoom the flash head to it's maximum to increase its power... provided it still covers the subject then you're sorted

for instance the 580ex isn't actually anymore powerful than the 550ex... it's just it can zoom it's head further so it has a higher flash power equivalence (Guide Number 58 as opposed to the 550's 55)

don55 · 25th January 2009, 00:36

yer the zoom is a good idea. my metz also does HSS but the otheres dont so no use in using it. dont really think it would help to much, but i can try.

Barry123 · 25th January 2009, 00:40

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Originally Posted by don55

yer the zoom is a good idea. my metz also does HSS but the otheres dont so no use in using it. dont really think it would help to much, but i can try.

you'd be surprised man... for instance you can picture a lightbulb filament (make it look like it's just a mild glow) at 1/8000 (depending on aperture of course - but you want to keep it a low f-number anyway). and then use a flash with a filter to illuminate a background... in that instance you could use the HSS

LEE_VTR1 · 25th January 2009, 00:56

good pics mate, missing my bmx now.
sold it the other day as i dont ride no more
but knowing i cant go for a ride now is annoying me a little.

nice photo of the lhd profile ss cassette too mate like that photo alot

don55 · 25th January 2009, 01:05

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Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1

good pics mate, missing my bmx now.
sold it the other day as i dont ride no more
but knowing i cant go for a ride now is annoying me a little.

nice photo of the lhd profile ss cassette too mate like that photo alot

yer its a mates bike, wanted me to shoot a few closeups of it.

here are the rest of the shots from the day

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bradfos...7612906090113/