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7th May 2009, 00:27
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Originally Posted by rossfisher89
ok williams and vts is debatable.
i never said vtr was a hot hatch mate, i personally dont think they are it's like a porsche boxster in comparison to a carrera just ask urself y buy a vtr?
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Doesn't a Clio williams have 150bhp vs 120bhp from the Saxo? So is likely to bit a little bit quicker but is probably carrying more weight, esp up front.
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7th May 2009, 00:28
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rossfisher89
just ask urself y buy a vtr?
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eh? why buy a VTR?
Plenty of reasons why, different people want different things, for example, I didnt want to be arse raped (minus lube) by getting a VTS for my first car, so got an R.
It does everything I need it to do, except for break alot, that I could do without... Still, just because it's not the God Almighty VTS, there's nothing to say its any worse than any other saxo.. Has the same, shitty stereotyped image attached, has the same reliability issues, same car minus 8v's essentially
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7th May 2009, 00:30
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#43
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Maidstone, Kent
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Correct Rey ... Half an engine 
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7th May 2009, 00:32
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#44
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Originally Posted by Ferg
Correct Rey ... Half an engine |
ahh but the same handling characteristics... tbh I don't care about having 8v's, I love my car, when it works , and its nippy enough for me right now lol cant afford to run anything better/faster 
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7th May 2009, 00:33
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#45
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Faversham
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Car(s): Saxo Vts and Punto FS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rey
eh? why buy a VTR?
Plenty of reasons why, different people want different things, for example, I didnt want to be arse raped (minus lube) by getting a VTS for my first car, so got an R.
It does everything I need it to do, except for break alot, that I could do without... Still, just because it's not the God Almighty VTS, there's nothing to say its any worse than any other saxo.. Has the same, shitty stereotyped image attached, has the same reliability issues, same car minus 8v's essentially
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lol didnt mean to offend anyone, what i meant by it was if performance is key to you why buy a vtr? if you just like look and happy with 90 bhp then it's wise to as you save a shit load on insurance.
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7th May 2009, 00:36
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#46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rossfisher89
lol didnt mean to offend anyone, what i meant by it was if performance is key to you why buy a vtr? if you just like look and happy with 90 bhp then it's wise to as you save a shit load on insurance.
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108 on mine according to AMD's rollers
and if performance was key to me, personally a saxo would not be on my list of cars to have lol
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7th May 2009, 00:39
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#47
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lol same mate, they are good for what they are, 120 break from a 1.6 isn't bad at only around 850 kgs? but being honest most of us would be in lotus exige's if we had the cash lol.
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7th May 2009, 00:41
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#48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rossfisher89
lol same mate, they are good for what they are, 120 break from a 1.6 isn't bad at only around 850 kgs? but being honest most of us would be in lotus exige's if we had the cash lol.
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935kg standard VTS weight
920kg standard VTR weight
me personally, I'd have a Caterham R500 
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7th May 2009, 00:45
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#49
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Originally Posted by rey
935kg standard VTS weight
920kg standard VTR weight
me personally, I'd have a Caterham R500 |
Is that dry weight? Add a few gallons of fuel, a couple of fat blokes and a few tinnies in the boot and you're screwed!
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7th May 2009, 00:47
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#50
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: maidstone
Posts: 7
Car(s): Saxo VTS
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dont no about other vts owners but i've had my vts 140mph yet to redline, pretty standard.
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7th May 2009, 00:51
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#51
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Location: Faversham
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Car(s): Saxo Vts and Punto FS
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yeah i never had that long of a run tbh, got to 130 pretty quick slowed from there, wasn't redlining but seemed pretty close. was approaching petrol station which police sit at sometimes so eased off alot, will test again with longer run next time i'm out late with v clear road. 935 kg 0.o dissapointed tbh lol, *gets out spanner and starts stripping* lol
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7th May 2009, 14:17
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#52
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2009
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Originally Posted by benji1man
dont no about other vts owners but i've had my vts 140mph yet to redline, pretty standard.
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Was that speedo indicated though? I don't doubt the speedo may have said it but the claim was made that actual speeds of above 140mph were possible with a VTS which is what i very much doubt (can't see manufacturers figures being that far out).
The VTR 132mph was claimed as being indicated on a Sat Nav which (to quote him) 'is 100% accurate' and again i do not believe that was true. How would a standard vtr get 5mph more than the VTS' top speed with 22bhp or so less?
Im pretty much certain i found the guy i was disputing this with on this forum as well now by reading through old posts, but he has yet to comment on this thread.
My take on 'hot hatch' was the same as someone else said i.e. the vtr is not a hot hatch if the vts is also in the range, it makes it a warm hatch. As i said before though that is a matter of opinion, its the overblown claims i wanted to sort out.
Cheers, captainroll
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6th June 2009, 18:20
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#53
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Southampton - Dibden
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Car(s): Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.
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I got 120 out of my vtr last night no way would it go 130 (mines standard part from a stainless exhaust)
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6th June 2009, 18:23
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#54
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Swadlincote
Posts: 1,185
Car(s): 2003 Black VTR
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90-100 bhp is pretty acceptable for a young person as a first or second car imo!
Considering most young people can only afford like 1.1s n stuff with 60bhp
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6th June 2009, 23:11
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#55
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Posts: 1,984
Car(s): MK2 VTS 153bhp
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VTR'S are mint for young people end ov.
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