**L.A.D conversions** - Saxperience

squeeler · 24th October 2005, 01:08

Ive been on there website to look at what they do, and what they have to offer....Im looking at getting a 170bhp conversion..now ive been looking at past topics on here, and it dont sound all good...but ive spoken to, and visited the guys at lad....and im just confussed..when i was there i saw a normal vts on the rollin road before it was about to have the conversion done and one that was being picked up by a customer that had the conversion done..both rollin roaded in front of customers, the conversion was running at 170bhp.....so what have people heard about this company, because i dont wanna blow a load of wedge on a load of lies....

Scott^p · 24th October 2005, 01:17

lies. The spec they quote would never hit 170 ever. ROlling roads can be made to read whatever they want them to read...

squeeler · 24th October 2005, 01:23

just wondering how they can say that and know its all lies, you would feel a dick, taken it to another rolling road centre feeling very pleased with yourself only to be told it aint what you thought!!!

Scott^p · 24th October 2005, 01:29

its happened to people before

squeeler · 24th October 2005, 01:30

Has any one on here had the conversion????

squeeler · 24th October 2005, 01:57

Im trying to find out as much info as i can they say that "Power raised to approximately 160 bhp at the flywheel by extensive cylinder head modification, incorporating larger inlet and exhaust ports and revised camshaft timing. An exhaust manifold and system based on the rally Kit Car engine can be fitted to the 160 bhp kit; this produces another 10 bhp raising the power output to approximately 170 bhp".....is this possible???

Sean · 24th October 2005, 02:05

bullshit. i wouldn't believe anything that LAD said about their figures. i've seen more than one car with this conversion hit nowhere near 160 on a rolling road. avoid.
in fact, try emailing them asking them to prove it and to explain how these mods would hit their claimed figures. bet you hear nothing back.

squeeler · 24th October 2005, 02:43

will do...thanks

Ratty · 24th October 2005, 16:11

just ask yourself, do you really think you can get 170bhp from a single thorttle body on a 1.6 engine? 120bhp as std is a massive figure for a 1.6 and for about 1k they claim to get you another 40?

wideboy · 25th October 2005, 02:21

<sniff> guess what I smell..?

Just have a look into any of the San Remo or Tour de Corse models of the Saxo...LAD conversions- most of which that have been RR'd arent hitting anywhere near their quoted figures.

You'd be better investing your money in something from a reliable company - maybe some throttle bodies or a S/C conv' at GMC? I know the cost is higher, but worth it!

If I had the money to spare - I would! But insurance companies don't like me as it is

WestyVTR · 25th October 2005, 12:55

GMC are the Daddies! ask for there oppinion, they are honest! 170bhp! from what they claim to do is just silly, do it properly!! even ask for an indipendanr RR test to prove there claims once the conversion is done... ah yeah they wouldnt agree would they!

squeeler · 25th October 2005, 22:05

thanks for all the advice guys, been to DP motorsport and and im talking to GMC about turbo conversion for after xmas, just waiting on them to sort some bits and pieces out first.......then its getting turbo'd...

squeeler · 25th October 2005, 22:38

**update**
Its going to GMC after xmas sometime the total conversion including big disk 4 pots, is about.... wait for it........£5800....money well spent...

the car will stay standard looking except for m3 mirrors, slightly lowered, and full exhaust system....the wheels will not change....keepin the vts rims.

Awretham · 26th October 2005, 00:02

Is that for a s/c or turbo conversion? Im guessing for that price its their s/c conversion but correct me if Im wrong please. cheers

wideboy · 26th October 2005, 00:12

GMC don't do Turbo conversions mate

guessing he means a charger

wideboy · 26th October 2005, 00:15

Supercharger Conversions.

SAXO VTR Intercooled Kit, MF2 Fuelled, 06/04/03

1- C30/64 charger with bracket, rollers, oil tank+ fixings £1736.00
1- Welded Aluminium Construction Intercooler £350.00
1- Welded Aluminium Construction Water Radiator £350.00
1- Cooling fan kit £93.00
1- Aluminium Header Tank £55.00
1- Rad Cap £5.00
1- 16 Row oil cooler £70.00
1- Drive belt 1180mm 80mm pulley £21.00
1- ERL MF2 unit + GMC signal conditioner£450.00
1- 2 Bar Map Sensor £78.00
1- Large Injector £70.00
1- Injector Fuel Fitting Kit £10.00
1- Injector Electric Connector Kit £6.50
1- Boost Pipe with Injector Holder No3 £140.00
1- Inlet Chrome Pipe No4 £87.00
1- K+N Air Filter Element £27.00

1- 200mm Fuel Hose £3.00
6- Stainless fuel Hose Clips £3.00
1- Fuel Hose “T” Piece £3.50
1- Intake Hosing £10.00
1- Samco Hose 50mm x 22mm Diameter £2.00
1- Samco hose 70mm x 60mm Diameter £7.00
2- Samco Hose 45degree Bends x 51mm Diameter £44.00

1- Samco hose 160 mm x 51 dia £15.00
1- Water Hose 450mm x13mm £10.00
1- Water Hose 450mm x 10mm £9.00
6- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 60mm £9.00

2- Stainless hose clips 70 mm £4.00
2- Stainless steel hose Clips 35mm £3.20
2- Stainless steel Hose Clips 25mm £3.20
2- Stainless steel Hose Clips 19mm £2.00
2- Intercooler Mounting Grommets £2.40
4- BCR8ES Spark Plugs £14.00

TOTAL £3692.80
VAT £646.24
PARTS GRAND TOTAL £4339.04
Labour cost to fit this to a silver Top ,Non L4 emission Spec, engine - £700.00
VAT £122.50

TOTAL FITTED PRICE £5161.54

SAXO VTS Intercooled Kit, MF2 Fuelled, 06/04/03

1- C30/64 Charger with Bracket, Rollers, Oil Tank and Fixings £1736.00
1- Aluminium Welded Construction Intercooler £350.00
1- Aluminium Welded Construction Radiator £350.00
1- Cooling Fan Kit £93.00
1- Aluminium Header Tank £55.00
1- Rad Cap £5.00
1- Alternator Bracket (VTR Type) £45.00
1- 16 Row oil Cooler £60.00
1- Drive Belt 1180mm 80mm Pulley £21.00
1- MF2 Unit + GMC Signal Conditioner 3 £450.00
1- 2bar MAP Sensor £78.00
1- Large Injector £70.00
1- Aluminium double Injector Holder 90 Degree Bend £55.00
1- Injector Fuel Fitting Kit £10.00
1- Injector Electric Connector Kit £6.50
1- Boost Pipe No 1 £94.00
1- Inlet Chrome Pipe No4 £87.00
1- Intake Hose £10.00
1- K+N Air filter Element £27.00
1- 200mm Fuel Hose £3.00
6- Stainless fuel Hose Clips £9.00
1- Samco Hose 51mm Joiner £6.00
1- Fuel Hose “T” Piece £3.50
1- Samco Hose 50mm x 22mm Diameter £2.00
1- Samco Hose 63mm x 51mm Diameter £22.00
2- Samco Hose 45 Degree Bends x 51mm Diameter £44.00
1- Samco Water Hose 450mm x13 mm £10.00
1- Samco Water Hose 450mm x 10 mm £9.00
7- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 60mm £10.50
1 - Stainless Steel Hose Clips 70mm £2.00
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 35mm £3.20
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 25mm £3.20
2- Stainless Steel Hose Clips 19mm £2.00
2- Intercooler Mounting Grommets £2.40
4- BCR8ES Spark Plugs £14.00

TOTAL £3699.30
VAT £647.38

PARTS GRAND TOTAL £4346.68
Labour cost to fit this to a standard engine £700.00
VAT £140.00

TOTAL FITTED PRICE £5186.68