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21st June 2009, 19:57
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ecu - standalone
hi all , , im getting tbs and ph3 camms so what kind of ecu or stand alone management should i invest in and will it need to be mapped ???? thanx alot
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21st June 2009, 20:45
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hmmmm tricky one i know engine management systems are pretty expensive as far as i know but i would look around for someone who does custom mapping for your car
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21st June 2009, 20:49
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youll need a standalone
kms
omex
pred
emerald
ect
they will all need mapping
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22nd June 2009, 07:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexB
youll need a standalone
kms
omex
pred
emerald
ect
they will all need mapping
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what about AEM ??? my mate has one n he sed a cud av it for a price like 
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22nd June 2009, 13:01
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Have you looked into the predator?
they are at a very good price at the moment,
andy
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22nd June 2009, 13:32
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i run a dta stand alone on mine with innovate wideband LC-1
expect to be paying around £1000-£1500 for the ecu, fitting and mapping.
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22nd June 2009, 13:53
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Cant chipwizards now just remap the standar ecu with pretty good results?
Standalone would be better though, jsut food for thought.
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22nd June 2009, 14:04
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yes you can have a standard ecu mapped but never to the same accuracy as a standalone. And it will be running tb's so to get the most out of it you would want a stand alone.
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22nd June 2009, 14:05
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My Predator is £495 fitted and mapped, check out my affiliate section for the group buy, and there are also lots of kind words in the feedback section now!!
Andy
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22nd June 2009, 14:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123
Cant chipwizards now just remap the standar ecu with pretty good results?
Standalone would be better though, jsut food for thought.
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will look into it thanks mate 
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23rd June 2009, 13:00
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i wouldnt go down the route of a standard ecu with thorttle bodies!!
a standalone ecu will work with the throttle bodies alot better, also it will be more easy to map in the future!!
andy
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23rd June 2009, 13:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luthor1
My Predator is £495 fitted and mapped, check out my affiliate section for the group buy, and there are also lots of kind words in the feedback section now!!
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is this a live map? this has resparked my interest in tb's...
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23rd June 2009, 16:24
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yes live mapping
Andy
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23rd June 2009, 16:52
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so with ph3s and bodies installed, the predator is installed and mapped for £500?
im seriously looking into bodies now...
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23rd June 2009, 18:41
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Yeah that's right. £495.
I recommend the Innovate LC-1 Wideband controller to go with it, which are around £140 and I can make a mini-PnP loom for that which just plugs into the standard loom connector.
I assume you've got a VTS conversion?
Andy
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23rd June 2009, 21:59
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yer the wideband LC-1 is so so good, it make the whole engine run alot smoother well with the predator too  it runs very smooth indeed was very shock in how smooth is was,
andy
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23rd June 2009, 23:02
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whats this wideband malarky?
yeah ive got a vts conversion
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23rd June 2009, 23:20
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Wideband gives you a more detailed afr reading so allows you to map for a specific fuel ratio rather than just rich or lean of stoichiometric.
The standard KMS one is supposed to be junk. the LC1 is supposed to be good but its expensive. I went cheapo and built my own.
Sensors can be had cheap off various audis in the scrapyard. As long as its got 5 wires (6 in the plug) its a wideband.
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23rd June 2009, 23:26
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£635 is still cheaper than omex or similar and getting that mapped!
need to sort out my wiring first, i might just buy a 3 plug loom
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24th June 2009, 00:10
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My ECU only does 1-plug's since it's plug and play, so if you're 1-plug, then stay 1-plug if you'reinterested in my ECU
The guy above looks to be using the J.A.W (just another wideband). It's fairly good, although not as good as the innovate, I've got one and I do like it... nothing wrong with it, just got to get the smoothing calculated correctly, the innovate seems to sort that out itself...
Andy
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