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22nd January 2012, 19:11
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Car(s): Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI
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My VW T4 Caravelle 2.5tdi, it was on the local rolling road yesterday..
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3rd March 2012, 18:48
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L-plater
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hitchin
Posts: 49
Car(s): 106 GTI 140BHP
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114.6 ATW
Simota induction kit
Janspeed manifold
supersprint silenced center
Kamracing backbox
Cat Cams 743
Predator ECU
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4th March 2012, 15:24
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#23
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L-plater
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Southend, Essex
Posts: 37
Car(s): Mk2 Saxo VTR black
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Mushroom style air filter
Standard manifold
Decat
Viper Custom made mild steel exhaust system with 3" backbox.
Was very happy with the result, the guy said it pulls very well and has good torque, not bad for 96k miles
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22nd March 2012, 14:53
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#24
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 250
Car(s): 2000 Saxo Woodland Green VTS,
2002 Mazda MX5
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Saxo VTS competely standard! not bad for a 12yr old car
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22nd March 2012, 15:08
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#25
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom5190
Saxo Vts
Catcam 743's (evo1 on rs graph)
Raceland 4-2-1
Straight through 2 1/2" centre pipe
Magnex rear box
Port & polished throttle body
Remapped
Rs tuning - Leeds - Dyno Dynamics - (Without P&P TB)
144.1 bhp
117.9 whp
18.39% T/loss
Northampton Motorsport - Northampton - Superflow (before & after P&P TB)
151bhp
Revlimit is 7750 the last run on the NMS graph revved over for some reason but it didnt effect the power, if anyone can explain that id love to know!
Surrey Rolling Road - Surrey - Dyno Dynamics
141.3 bhp
115.6 whp
18.19% T/Loss
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If there's been no changes to the car it's interesting to see a 10hp difference from the NMS rollers to the Surrey ones. Especially considering some claim NMS are a hard roller to see power on.
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22nd March 2012, 15:13
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 6,789
Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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I think if you got the WHP from northampton Motorsport then there would be less difference?
Btw I'll have a new graph to put up soon hopefully. got my forged engine in and the car will be remapped and boost upped soon
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22nd March 2012, 15:20
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Wasn't it pauls old gti which made big power on their rollers without really anything done?
I've got a graph from mine had the map tweaked in August somewhere. Certainly made more than the 170 people said it would be after the high tranny losses from the maha's.
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22nd March 2012, 15:32
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Paul with the china blue gti??
His car had cams iirc
Get your motor back together Ryan and get it back on the rollers
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22nd March 2012, 15:33
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Originally Posted by dannygti
Paul with the china blue gti??
His car had cams iirc
Get your motor back together Ryan and get it back on the rollers
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It is back together, map was tweaked in August. Although I'd like to see what it would do with more advanced ignition as its mapped for 95.
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22nd March 2012, 15:39
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Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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Yea get some good fuel in there.. Will make a difference in an engine as tuned as yours.
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24th March 2012, 22:33
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Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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Found the one from August.
Mapped and run on 95Ron.
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24th March 2012, 22:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
If there's been no changes to the car it's interesting to see a 10hp difference from the NMS rollers to the Surrey ones. Especially considering some claim NMS are a hard roller to see power on.
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Yea i need to grab the WHP graph from NMS when i can..... Chris made 278ish at NMS on the same roller as me and again on the surrey RR made 240odd. The surrey road read alot lower than the NMS one.
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24th March 2012, 22:46
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom5190
Yea i need to grab the WHP graph from NMS when i can..... Chris made 278ish at NMS on the same roller as me and again on the surrey RR made 240odd. The surrey road read alot lower than the NMS one.
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Shows how much the rollers can vary really.
I know JKM the operator said it was a hard roller to get good power on, it made more than it did on dave walkers when it was first mapped so all good.
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26th March 2012, 20:14
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Location: Edinburgh
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150bhp / 138lb.ft
Peugeot 106 GTi
C2 VTS JP4 TU5J
106 GTi Inlet
Advanced Timing Pulley
Skimmed Head
Raceland Enclosed Unduction Kit & Green Cotton Filter
Raceland 4-2-1 Manifold ( Heatwrapped )
Scorpion Stainless Steel Exhaust
Pugsport Group N Stainless Steel Back Box
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26th March 2012, 20:24
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Sussex
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Car(s): CLS63 AMG
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Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo V6. Td04-13T turbos, FMIC, full zorst, remap, low/mid boost.
432bhp, 410 lb ft torque.
My old 2001 Saxo VTS, completely stock on 95ron fuel.
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8th April 2012, 18:52
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#36
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: aylesbury
Posts: 385
Car(s): cammed vtr 16v sold
now mk4 astra gsi turbo
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vts
pipervipercross airfilter
piper 4-1 mani
straight through zorst
1.1 gearbox
produced 132bhp at surrey rolling road
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29th April 2012, 17:40
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 435
Car(s): Audi S3 quattro (1.8T, 241bhp) - '02.
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241bhp at the fly and 215bhp reaching the road, but of course 4wd so I can use all that power easily!
Been back since and will post up of more powerrr.
Last edited by Global_discovery; 29th April 2012 at 17:42.
Reason: Missed date off.
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8th May 2012, 21:13
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#38
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Updated my first post, i grabbed my WHP graph from NMS today.
The superflow dyno at NMS made more BHP & WHP but less LB/FT and also intrestingly the superflow is the only one ive used that calculates the run down for each individual car and this was less than the DynoDynamics used at surrey & RS tuning, so in reality the BHP figures from both dyno dynamics should be a little lower than they are.
Last edited by Tom5190; 8th May 2012 at 21:20.
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8th May 2012, 21:26
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#39
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom5190
Updated my first post, i grabbed my WHP graph from NMS today.
The superflow dyno at NMS made more BHP & WHP but less LB/FT and also intrestingly the superflow is the only one ive used that calculates the run down for each individual car and this was less than the DynoDynamics used at surrey & RS tuning, so in reality the BHP figures from both dyno dynamics should be a little lower than they are.
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Lowering the dyno dynamics ones would make the NMS figure seem even higher next to them. The run downs are not 100% accurate though as we know from various runs with maha's etc seeing a 2-3% difference shows the perceived calculations to not be a long way off at least.
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8th May 2012, 21:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Lowering the dyno dynamics ones would make the NMS figure seem even higher next to them. The run downs are not 100% accurate though as we know from various runs with maha's etc seeing a 2-3% difference shows the perceived calculations to not be a long way off at least.
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Yea you cant really take any figure whp/bhp/tloss from any single one of them. im hopefully going to try and get it on 2-3 other different types of dyno's and see what readings come up.
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