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6th February 2012, 20:57
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Originally Posted by -shuggles-
well tbh at the price of my set up I can't complain, I do plan on going forged with a larger turbo next winter when I can afford it as I just want some form of boost for summer. By the engine choking what do you mean? I am only going to get the small turbo mapped at 15ish psi
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Yep would like to see some specs of this turbo.. Exh A/R, wheel sizes inlet A/R etc compressor map ideally
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6th February 2012, 20:59
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cant find much in the way of specs...but i know thats a very small turbo, i cant imagine it would boost 15psi without being super hot.. if at all, actuator pressure is about 7-8psi
either way it wouldnt las long trying to push that lol
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6th February 2012, 21:13
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
i dont think you can run that turbo at that boost mate
ill go check the specs...
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I was reading on some random shit owners club of people turning them up to roughly 15psi? Unless they swapped the turbo for something with a similar code.
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6th February 2012, 21:14
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
cant find much in the way of specs...but i know thats a very small turbo, i cant imagine it would boost 15psi without being super hot.. if at all, actuator pressure is about 7-8psi
either way it wouldnt las long trying to push that lol
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Not worth the risk then... t25 it is
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6th February 2012, 21:14
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your turbo is a vq10 rhb51 standard they run 8psi on overboost 9.5psi the charrade guys run these at 1 bar but thats on a 3pot motor. Usually you can get these hybrided easy enough you'll get fast spool and pretty much instant boost but top end may struggle
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6th February 2012, 21:16
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Yep would like to see some specs of this turbo.. Exh A/R, wheel sizes inlet A/R etc compressor map ideally
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As blackie said, finding anything on this turbo is hard
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6th February 2012, 21:16
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even a t25 is working hard at that boost mate, thats why im after a bigger turbo,
t25 max boost is about 16-18psi but your not supposed to run them that high without having a 360 degree thrust bearing fitted, i just planned on getting mine hybrid..but im going a for a diff unit now... even with the bearing fitted itll still be running hot for an engine that wasnt desinged for boost
mine runs fine now and doesnt over heat...but on a cold day it feels like ive got a 40bhp or so increase in power...cars always run better on cold days like..but still its running hotter then id like to run
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6th February 2012, 21:20
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
even a t25 is working hard at that boost mate, thats why im after a bigger turbo,
t25 max boost is about 16-18psi but your not supposed to run them that high without having a 360 degree thrust bearing fitted, i just planned on getting mine hybrid..but im going a for a diff unit now... even with the bearing fitted itll still be running hot for an engine that wasnt desinged for boost
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you lot are making me want to go forged and t28 just now... cunts.
After speaking to john from gmc a month ago I very much doubt he would even map a t28 set up, He nearly hung up the phone on me when I suggested it
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6th February 2012, 21:22
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Originally Posted by -shuggles-
you lot are making me want to go forged and t28 just now... cunts.
After speaking to john from gmc a month ago I very much doubt he would even map a t28 set up, He nearly hung up the phone on me when I suggested it
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i was going to go t28 as on paper its doesnt seem too bad... but after speaking to gixxa the other day he said he wasnt getting full boost (thats 20psi though) till 4k...which doesnt leave much of a powerband on a roller rocker 8v
so im having a re think atm
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6th February 2012, 21:26
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It's all leading back to either a gt25r or a hybrid unit spec'd to my car at the min...
Open to suggestions from ppl like,
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6th February 2012, 21:30
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Originally Posted by -shuggles-
After speaking to john from gmc a month ago I very much doubt he would even map a t28 set up, He nearly hung up the phone on me when I suggested it
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lol really? A, it's your car not his B, there are plenty of other people who can map for you.
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6th February 2012, 21:32
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
i was going to go t28 as on paper its doesnt seem too bad... but after speaking to gixxa the other day he said he wasnt getting full boost (thats 20psi though) till 4k...which doesnt leave much of a powerband on a roller rocker 8v
so im having a re think atm
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Should of had my big valve head then haha One of my mates was telling me the turbo from a fc rx7 is a similar size to the t25 but he said it would be better for my kind of set up, just text him to find out what turbo he was talking about
It's not handy with me jumping the gun a bit and buying the turbo kit as a spur of the moment purchase as I know fuck all about turbo's
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6th February 2012, 21:33
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
It's all leading back to either a gt25r or a hybrid unit spec'd to my car at the min...
Open to suggestions from ppl like,
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Depends how much power you want?
You give me a figure and I'll tell you what I think would work well
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6th February 2012, 21:35
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potential max of 220bhp nothing more crazy more likely 180bhp realistically turbo for that
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6th February 2012, 21:35
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Originally Posted by dannygti
lol really? A, it's your car not his B, there are plenty of other people who can map for you.
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Well I said I wanted to have scope for future upgrade such as a t25 or t28 If I like the feel of boost in a saxo and he said they were far too big for a 1.6... I wasn't going to argue with the guy tho because there is no doubt he does know his stuff.
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6th February 2012, 21:37
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Originally Posted by -shuggles-
Should of had my big valve head then haha One of my mates was telling me the turbo from a fc rx7 is a similar size to the t25 but he said it would be better for my kind of set up, just text him to find out what turbo he was talking about
It's not handy with me jumping the gun a bit and buying the turbo kit as a spur of the moment purchase as I know fuck all about turbo's
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He has a fit when you mention the T word!lol. I use russ paton from performance hq at dalgety bay to do my mapping and has done a few of my friends cars, cant fault the guy. Lets you know what needs done for more power and wont just map it and throw you to the reception to pay your bill, he gives feedback which is exactly what I look for.
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6th February 2012, 21:41
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Originally Posted by 106TURBO
He has a fit when you mention the T word!lol. I use russ paton from performance hq at dalgety bay to do my mapping and has done a few of my friends cars, cant fault the guy. Lets you know what needs done for more power and wont just map it and throw you to the reception to pay your bill, he gives feedback which is exactly what I look for.
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I see you are a fellow haggis muncher where about's is this guy? Does he map dta? Sounds like a good guy to speak to tbh
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6th February 2012, 21:41
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Originally Posted by -shuggles-
Well I said I wanted to have scope for future upgrade such as a t25 or t28 If I like the feel of boost in a saxo and he said they were far too big for a 1.6... I wasn't going to argue with the guy tho because there is no doubt he does know his stuff.
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He knows his stuff for sure but when it comes to turbos he imo is V narrow minded..
A t25 isn't too big for a 1600 that's a ridiculous statement! I can't believe his logic sometimes. If you want to keep him happy say your tempted by a rotrex..
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6th February 2012, 21:43
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You lot are making me doubt my t28 i'm planning on using on the vtr now Will it really be that bad?
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6th February 2012, 21:45
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Originally Posted by iSlayeR
You lot are making me doubt my t28 i'm planning on using on the vtr now Will it really be that bad?
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No, it will still be fast as fuck don't worry
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