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15th February 2009, 12:25
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anyone? i need this sorted today if poss
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15th February 2009, 12:34
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reset your ecu its probaly still trying to idle as if you still have your vtr throttle body on
this 1 is much bigger there for id say the sensors are sensing not enough air in the enclosed part and drawing more in hence why the idle is at 2k
try disconnecting battery if you havent already...
i take it you've followed this guide to a T?
also try find out if the was diff versions of the body...dont think there was but check anyways.
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15th February 2009, 12:51
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looks the same as the guide, and followed the guide as well as could be, i tried adjusting the idle screw but it appears that the butterfly is closed even when is revving at 3k which makes me think tha its drawing in air from somewhere?
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15th February 2009, 12:53
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you put the bolts on to the correct torque setting for the inlet, fit new seals etc?
cleaned the ICV and other sensors? where you have drilled the hole for the ICV its not seeping in air around that area is it?
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15th February 2009, 12:56
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Will it fit a furio?
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15th February 2009, 13:00
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didnt have a seal so i just siliconed it as it'l be comming off again next week to fit my cams and i can put a new gasket on then, just wanted it all in and running ok before i start pulling the head off to cam it, icv is on the left fitted with an airline fitting, going to check all seals as you haved to blank a few pipes on the mani and 1 on the tb, would really like someone whos fitted to talk through it and make sure ive got evrthing in ok?
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15th February 2009, 16:11
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this only fits the mark1 versions right?
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15th February 2009, 16:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evans1089
this only fits the mark1 versions right?
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yeah only for mark1...
looks like hes tried to fit it to a mark2 tho... but arent the port spacings different?
what does the mark2 tb have that the mark1 dosent?
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15th February 2009, 16:17
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the reason it idles like a dog, is because the s1 didnt have an icv....
you could try buying a new icv and starting a fresh, but its £65 for a new one.
resetting the ecu does'nt do anything, tried this and it didnt work....
the thing to do is.....pull the icv apart (pull the shaft out with the rubber end on) take the spring out, then get a 1/2mm washer and put that on, this will stop the plunger fully returning.....
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15th February 2009, 16:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PETE-VTR
yeah only for mark1...
looks like hes tried to fit it to a mark2 tho... but arent the port spacings different?
what does the mark2 tb have that the mark1 dosent?
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it will fit mk2s with the single plug ecu and furios for that matter
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15th February 2009, 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankie
the reason it idles like a dog, is because the s1 didnt have an icv....
you could try buying a new icv and starting a fresh, but its £65 for a new one.
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can he not adapt the ICV from his original TB?
iv seen this only mark1 and idles perfectly, so why would the mark2 be any different
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15th February 2009, 17:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PETE-VTR
can he not adapt the ICV from his original TB?
iv seen this only mark1 and idles perfectly, so why would the mark2 be any different
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different cam? maybe.
you can adapt the ICV, i will try and draw what i mean on paint.
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15th February 2009, 19:14
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mine a 90bhp silver top, single plug, fitted and all is ok but idles at 3 k, ive drilled tapped and fitted an airline fitting onto left on s1 inlet and joined my saxo icv to the fitting witha bit of rubber, what were you saying bout stripping the icv? need this soerted asap or its gonna fry my clutch
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15th February 2009, 19:16
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also the throttle has an over run? takes a sec or 2 when in gear to drop revs when you let up, soon as you drop the clutch pedal it drops revs for a half sec then flys up to 0ver 3 k the slowly settles to3 or just over?
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25th February 2009, 15:56
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probably a bit of a n00by question but is it a Rally inlet of a 205 Rallye of a 106 Rallye or something else? and anyone had it done and properely mapped with cams? what sort of gains?
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25th February 2009, 21:28
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106 s1 rallye m8, lots have done it, gains are ment to be much better an sound much better too, jus the inlet and tb on mine with the induction 4-2-1 and full sytem has greatly improved, cams go in this weekend then a map and ill let you know how it goes
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25th February 2009, 21:59
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whats teh difference between S1 and S2? is it like the 90bhp VTR and the 98BHP VTR?
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26th February 2009, 12:11
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s2 is the same as the vtr inlet, which is plastic, so using the inlet off s2 will make no diff, but the s1 is alot bigger and made from steel (i think lol, cant remember) so with this you get better airflow and intake etc
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26th February 2009, 20:47
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s2 is same as vtr as said, s1 is something like 3x bigger i beleive but dont quote me and is made from aluminium, really tidys up your engine bay too, i think it looks alot better,
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6th March 2009, 20:36
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does any thing connect to the big black thing on throttle body as there is a big plug on the thing that says magnet merell
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