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29th December 2009, 21:19
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: chesterfield. tupton
Posts: 1,501
Car(s): saxo vtr escort rs
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love this, proper track slag, ditch the wipers for black ones though imo, ang get some 205 gti rims wrapped in sticky tyres on there,i love silver mk 1s, thats why i have one but it a long way of your spec yet, but its getting there.
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29th December 2009, 21:35
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#42
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Northampton
Posts: 221
Car(s): 2000 reg mk2 saxo furio
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damn good will be keeping an eye on this
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30th December 2009, 16:12
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#43
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: A farm shed in Aylesbury
Posts: 14,916
Car(s): Corolla AE86
Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
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Originally Posted by AndySAXO
sorry if this sound rude but how much was it for the ecu?
many thanks
andy
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I think they are a megasquirt variant so I doubt it costs much at all.
Good job on fitting throttlebodies. They should give a better balanced part throttle and throttle response compared to a big tb, though its very unlikely to give extra top end..
Kev
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30th December 2009, 17:41
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#44
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Braintree
Posts: 102
Car(s): peugeot 106
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now thats a true track beast!
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30th December 2009, 19:17
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#45
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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The V4 is far from an MS....
We offer it for £995 supplied fitted and mapped (thats on dyno-dynamics rollers, not the road!)
The predaitor is a good ECU, I should know I designed it.... anyway moving on...
Chris is coming in tomorrow for a spot of preliminary mapping to see how the new build holds together.
If anyone reads Track and Race Car magazine, I write for them every month and IO think Chris car is worth a mention!!
Cheers,
Matt
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30th December 2009, 19:21
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#46
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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We dont actually offer a PnP for the saxo, hence that adapter loom is a one off. Usually we wire directly into the factory loom as it keeps things neat.
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30th December 2009, 19:55
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#47
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ramsey st marys, peterborough
Posts: 8,288
Car(s): Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)
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so you help andy with the predator?
also where are you based?
how much would you map the predator on the dyno?
andy
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30th December 2009, 23:06
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#48
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bath/Warminster
Posts: 2,616
Car(s): 57 plate C2 VTS & a saxo 1.4
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Ahh I know your car. I study at Castle Combe and you were out on track one afternoon. HOLY MOTHER OF SWEET JEBUS your car sounds absalutely awesome. It nearly made me drop my pastie that I was eating, very cool car my friend.
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31st December 2009, 00:51
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,802
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M-Tech did not *design* any aspect of the Predator ECU.
They were contracted to build the hardware from my designs, however they failed on every level; price, reliability and quality control. Hence they are not building it, and did not get the business to do the work.
Andy
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31st December 2009, 01:03
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#50
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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We charge £250 to map a naturally aspirated car.
Andy, ok 
Cheers,
Matt
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31st December 2009, 01:04
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#51
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndySAXO
so you help andy with the predator?
also where are you based?
how much would you map the predator on the dyno?
andy
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Andy,
Sorry, £250 to fully map (or £45 an hour if it just needs a tune) we are based on west wilts trading estate, BA13 4JW.
Cheers,
Matt
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31st December 2009, 03:36
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#52
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 275
Car(s): polo
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very nice car, not too keen on the wheels
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1st January 2010, 15:32
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#53
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 6,789
Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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come on then..... lets have some in depth results???
ive seen the first stage of results on 106moaners...
i have a feeling theres plenty to come, are you guys thinking the same?
also videos are a must!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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1st January 2010, 16:40
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#54
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1st January 2010, 16:46
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
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Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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Originally Posted by JamesMTech
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thanks for that.
i just read on 106 owners you have issues with MAP sensor, why is this? cant you fit it to the inlet plenum?
also, why are you only running 5psi? do you thinnk its safe limit? ive seen dutch cars with standard internals and decomp plate with over 17psi and 300hp and still fine.. obviously slightly bigger budgets.
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1st January 2010, 16:46
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#56
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North-East
Posts: 3,060
Car(s): 172 Phase 1
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Originally Posted by JamesMTech
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sounds immense, need more videos though!
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1st January 2010, 17:26
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#57
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Isle of Man
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Car(s): 92 Eunos
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sounds sweet!! looks like a good build!
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1st January 2010, 17:57
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#58
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dannygti
thanks for that.
i just read on 106 owners you have issues with MAP sensor, why is this? cant you fit it to the inlet plenum?
also, why are you only running 5psi? do you thinnk its safe limit? ive seen dutch cars with standard internals and decomp plate with over 17psi and 300hp and still fine.. obviously slightly bigger budgets.
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Re the MAp sensor. If we put it in the plenum, spun up the turbo, then closed the throttle (throttle bodies) whats our MAP reading?
That should explain that one,  the main issue is there is only one takeoff on one of the bodies at the moment, we need a takeoff on all 4 to smooth out the pulsing from the cams etc.
Boost wise, thats what Chris wanted to run. Its not finished yet so I am sure we can look at upping it a tad... 
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1st January 2010, 18:06
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: dudley United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 6,789
Car(s): 106 gti/ SEAT LCR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesMTech
Re the MAp sensor. If we put it in the plenum, spun up the turbo, then closed the throttle (throttle bodies) whats our MAP reading?
That should explain that one, the main issue is there is only one takeoff on one of the bodies at the moment, we need a takeoff on all 4 to smooth out the pulsing from the cams etc.
Boost wise, thats what Chris wanted to run. Its not finished yet so I am sure we can look at upping it a tad... |
ahh makes complete sense now, thanks for clearing that one up....
so whats the best way round the map sensor issue? weld take offs on inlet? how do you get from 4 into 1?
thanks for your help in advance mr mtech
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1st January 2010, 20:35
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#60
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L-plater
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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Danny,
We supply sme little threaded tubes that need to be tapped into each body after the throttle blade. From there you can either link them all up with T-Pieces.
If you still experience oscillating map readings, you can either use a large volume of pipe or a small box to conect all the hoses to before running to the ECU to smooth out the valve pressure waves and standing waves etc.
Thank god the V4 has 4D mapping otherwise it would be tricky!
Matt
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