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Mystic^p · 9th January 2008, 19:01

So for the ECU, adaptor loom % wideband without display im looking at about how much?

You in a position to pass on your 25% discount danny?

dannygti · 9th January 2008, 19:08

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Originally Posted by Mystic

So for the ECU, adaptor loom % wideband without display im looking at about how much?

You in a position to pass on your 25% discount danny?

thats debateable at the minute mate.ive got to sort the info out first and speak with my managers.

i think it was about £880 iirc or abouts for that mystic.

samcook · 9th January 2008, 19:12

for kms with wideband and display, fitted and mapped on a 3plug ecu by gmc, comes to a grand total of £1628 + VAT

willsy · 9th January 2008, 19:13

Is that £880 all in Danny with your discount?

I need to stress that that isnt a 100% confirmed price from QEP, Matt is away on Holiday this week who will be able to give that fully confirmed price.

That on the previous page is what the bloke left working there said it would be in the region of

willsy · 9th January 2008, 19:18

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Originally Posted by samcook

for kms with wideband and display, fitted and mapped on a 3plug ecu by gmc, comes to a grand total of £1628 + VAT

Dont you just wish companies would give prices inclusive of VAT, really gets on my tits with it being so deceiving. Seems a really good price until VAt is added pushing that up to over £1900

Glad ive got the single plug though, with the adapter loom its a piece of cake so im assured.

Prices for KMS from DES Developments in Walsall were as follows for KMS

ECU - £392 + VAT
Lambda display/wideband £224
Adapter loom £95.33
Fitting £540 (Balls to that for an easy fit on the single plug)
Mapping - Between £100-£500 dependant on how good the base map is

So adding up DES Developments price for all required ECU bits only (i say only

) comes to £779 inclusive of VAT

Mystic^p · 9th January 2008, 19:24

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Originally Posted by willsy

Is that £880 all in Danny with your discount?

Ditto to that, and inclusive of Vat or not?

Thats a good price from the Walsall place, is it still provided with a basemap from them?

I'd be up for that price and getting it all running on a basemap too

Toad · 9th January 2008, 19:31

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Originally Posted by willsy

Dont you just wish companies would give prices inclusive of VAT, really gets on my tits with it being so deceiving. Seems a really good price until VAt is added pushing that up to over £1900

Glad ive got the single plug though, with the adapter loom its a piece of cake so im assured.

Prices for KMS from DES Developments in Walsall were as follows for KMS

ECU - £392 + VAT
Lambda display/wideband £224
Adapter loom £95.33
Fitting £540 (Balls to that for an easy fit on the single plug)
Mapping - Between £100-£500 dependant on how good the base map is

So adding up DES Developments price for all required ECU bits only (i say only

) comes to £779 inclusive of VAT

That's a massive difference. WTF!?

willsy · 9th January 2008, 19:34

Too many different prices, my mind is boggling right now.

I am 100% set on KMS management though.

The main thing drawing me to QEP at the moment (regardless of whatever the final price is) is they are the only place which will supply the KMS with a basemap suitable to your cars setup already loaded up.

The above is crucial to me as i will have had no way of firing up my engine beforehand to see if it works before taking it to anywhere to be fitted/mapped etc.

So with KMS supplied with a basemap its easy to connect up on the single plug then i can get the engine fired up and running knowing that the basemap will be fine - allows me to drive the car to run it in a little bit before booking in for mapping

Matty-VTR · 9th January 2008, 19:35

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Originally Posted by redbullet07

500? they've gone up by £100...

From everyones whos got Omex i keep hearing how great and easy to use they are

500ish i quoted may be for the 700/710 series..yeh my dad owns Mech Motorsport and maps ECU's nearly everyday and omex are pretty much spot on. Never heard of KMS though

The prices u guys have been getting for parts fitting and mapping seem a bit steep imo

samcook · 9th January 2008, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Mystic

Ditto to that, and inclusive of Vat or not?

Thats a good price from the Walsall place, is it still provided with a basemap from them?

I'd be up for that price and getting it all running on a basemap too

thort you had a 3 plug ecu?
which means you would be in the same boat as me and the £2000 cost from gmc

dannygti · 9th January 2008, 19:35

thats just going off qep website for ecu say £425
adaptor loom £200
wideband WITHOUT display is £240

but then you need to add vat.
god i hate vat.

willsy · 9th January 2008, 19:37

Petition to abolish VAT?...If only

we can dream

rushy_23 · 9th January 2008, 19:41

^^
We can all dream. Im gonna close this thread before I cut my wrists.

Mystic^p · 9th January 2008, 19:47

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Originally Posted by samcook

thort you had a 3 plug ecu?
which means you would be in the same boat as me and the £2000 cost from gmc

Nah sorry Sam, im a trendy single plugger

Last VTS was a 3 plug, it died 2 years ago in July though

willsy · 9th January 2008, 19:49

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Originally Posted by rushy_23

^^
We can all dream. Im gonna close this thread before I cut my wrists.

lol get in on the action Rush, you know you want to

BODIES BODIES BODIES! am i tempting you yet?

I had a good chat with DES Developments yesterday Rush with regards to both ECU's, the long and short of it from their point of view was:

They would go for OMEX everytime, BUT he did say that he wouldnt say that its better than the KMS, the reason they favour it is simply because they've never had a single problem with one. (If its good and they're used to it then theres no need to venture far into anything different)

Costs of buying and fitting from them were virtually the same.

KMS they'd recommend more than the OMEX for people fitting it themselves as its easier to understand.

Toad · 9th January 2008, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Matty-VTR

500ish i quoted may be for the 700/710 series..yeh my dad owns Mech Motorsport and maps ECU's nearly everyday and omex are pretty much spot on. Never heard of KMS though

The prices u guys have been getting for parts fitting and mapping seem a bit steep imo

Oh cool mate. I was there about 8 months ago. Dave did some work with my cam timing on the rollers. Is Dave your old man?

dannygti · 9th January 2008, 20:07

is this teasing you guys enough, kms boddies run with kms ecu!!!!

Mystic^p · 9th January 2008, 20:22

That looks quite tasty Danny, what engine is that?

What other implications are there whilst fitting a KMS, i heard something about the immobiliser not working afterwards.

Is it better to mount the ECU inside the car or just stick it where the std one is?

willsy · 9th January 2008, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Mystic

What other implications are there whilst fitting a KMS, i heard something about the immobiliser not working afterwards.

Is it better to mount the ECU inside the car or just stick it where the std one is?

Dreading that bit, alarm will be a right paint in the arse if thats the case, all my immobiliser and alarm is integrated.

Mount ECu where standard one goes ftw

dannygti · 9th January 2008, 20:26

2.0 ford duratec enigne.200bhp

im also going for standard position of the ecu.with he plug and play connector it would be a lot of hassle moving it somewhere else.