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10th January 2008, 17:56
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Originally Posted by samcook
found it, thats what i got from mech for the installation of the omex
mech motorsport in cheltenham got back to me with a porice for fitting the omex, its £600 for the ecu wiring and connects + vat, £360 to wire in +vat, 300+vat to map it
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Nice one Sammy boy! Will be interesting to see what Matty comes back with also. This is much cheaper than GMC I think.
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10th January 2008, 18:05
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Originally Posted by Toad
Nice one Sammy boy! Will be interesting to see what Matty comes back with also. This is much cheaper than GMC I think.
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cheaper than GMC but more expensive than DD
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10th January 2008, 18:06
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its mad how complicated it is to find the cheapest price for a standalone setup.
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10th January 2008, 18:12
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Originally Posted by samcook
cheaper than GMC but more expensive than DD
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But will the mapping be any good?
At the end of the day its how it drives and idles which matters most - to me anyway,
Hence why i went with gmc as they know how to get a supercharged 300bhp beast to drive well, let alone a 170bhp na engine (yes i know boosted has more torque, supercharged is linear blah blah)
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10th January 2008, 18:21
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I agree JP. We certainly haven't any evidence to prove that Dave at MM is not so hot at mapping. Tricky one... Neil Garner who did they head work for me, couldn't recommend them enough. Considering Neil's spent many years in F1, I'd hope that his judgement was good. I would be willing to let MM do the work on my car.
I'm in a bit of a hurry to get this work done ASAP for reasons you know JP. I'm sure even if the map wasn't super duper, it would at least be much better than what I'm currently at.
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10th January 2008, 20:00
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Originally Posted by Toad
I agree JP. We certainly haven't any evidence to prove that Dave at MM is not so hot at mapping. Tricky one... Neil Garner who did they head work for me, couldn't recommend them enough. Considering Neil's spent many years in F1, I'd hope that his judgement was good. I would be willing to let MM do the work on my car.
I'm in a bit of a hurry to get this work done ASAP for reasons you know JP. I'm sure even if the map wasn't super duper, it would at least be much better than what I'm currently at.
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Never had a bad word said about the mapping quality at Mech Motorsport - I think that says it all. Drivability, responsiveness etc are the main priorities. MM has had work passed onto them from the likes of Dave walker and powerstation because the customer wasn't happy with the mapping/power.
Does Neil have the BMW M3 24hour race cars? Think hes the bloke with them. Neil knows his stuff and i'd think his judgement is spot on mate.
Best to ring MM for up to date quotes. The boss who does all the fitting wasn't there earlier so i couldnt ask. Just seen they recently fitted an OMEX 710 & loom to an RS500 cossie which looks pretty good
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10th January 2008, 20:11
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Quality mate.
Yeah, Neil does have an M3 racer. He uses your old man for the mapping.
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Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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10th January 2008, 20:17
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Quality mate.
Yeah, Neil does have an M3 racer. He uses your old man for the mapping.
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Thought so..that thing goes well i seen it at Silverstone.
MM arnt open tommorow as they are at the Autosport show, but looking at those quotes i'd say to get them up to date.
You looked into bike bodies? My old man just did a 2.0 16v zetec with JUST bike bodies and an omex 600 nothing else - 170bhp+ I would of thought they would be pretty cheap and plenty adequate (Spelling?) for your 1600. As i said earlier it would be a right little screamer
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10th January 2008, 20:25
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Bike bodies haven't proved that popular with Saxos.
I've got my heart set on the KMS DTH bodies.
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and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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10th January 2008, 20:31
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Popular - What do you mean? Don't perform well? What sort of power were they producing?
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10th January 2008, 20:57
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kms ftw
ive used both systems the kms and the omex and they are both very good but now ive swayed towards the kms because now ive got used to it its so easy to use
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10th January 2008, 21:09
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Originally Posted by dannygti
kms ftw
ive used both systems the kms and the omex and they are both very good but now ive swayed towards the kms because now ive got used to it its so easy to use
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It doesn't matter if it's user friendly or not for most people...there not mapping it themselves are they.
Did you map yours then?
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11th January 2008, 00:35
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Originally Posted by Matty-VTR
Popular - What do you mean? Don't perform well? What sort of power were they producing?
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I've never seen anyone show their results mate.
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11th January 2008, 22:34
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Originally Posted by Matty-VTR
It doesn't matter if it's user friendly or not for most people...there not mapping it themselves are they.
Did you map yours then?
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its not my car they are westfields nd ive been doing a bit of developement.
i got it somewhere close the it was sent to out rr tuners.
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11th January 2008, 22:39
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So you did the base maps then?
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11th January 2008, 22:49
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as it was the first time we used the system we had a duratec base map supplied by kms and the used its wideband lambda properties to get it revving clenly without hesitance or misfires and make sure it wasnt close to "detonation" and when we were satisfied we took it for a final mapping.
that was temporary due to kms not knowing the type of exhaust system and induction being used, now that we have sent all the performance goods to kms they have set it up and mapped it proplerly on their engine dyno
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