300bhp 16v - Component limits? - Page 4 - Saxperience

katiescar · 25th August 2008, 23:12

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Originally Posted by dannygti

have you spokr to tranx? or try elite gearbox's or x-trac they might do ones that could be more competative on price..

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havent spoke to them yet, will be though - but probs going to stick with what we have been told as their cars are running and being abused, with no problems. its one of the things we will be doing over the winter while building the engine.

dannygti · 25th August 2008, 23:13

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Originally Posted by katiescar

havent spoke to them yet, will be though - but probs going to stick with what we have been told as their cars are running and being abused, with no problems. its one of the things we will be doing over the winter while building the engine.

does make good sense tbh.. if there are cars out there doing the same thing and they have had no problems then why change ay

dannygti · 25th August 2008, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Beans

Cheers - Been following them both

Shaun's made 217 with a standard head didn't it? Or at least standard head work if I remember rightly. I'll have to ask him why he didn't go for more, whether he thought that was enough, or whether they thought it wouldn't take any more (Be it high EGT's, IAT's etc) or whether it would ultimately go on to crack 300bhp with some head work and more boost

yes mate thats with standard head and cams....

good thing with boost is that with cams you can gain massive amounts with cams/headwork but with n/a you only gain smaller margins.
i think with flowed big valve head and boost cams shauns could of made around 280-300bhp@fly i guess but now hes going bigger turbo so if he wishes for more later he still has option of cams/head etc.

Sophia_Bush · 25th August 2008, 23:24

shaun was only running 10psi iirc to so with 1 bar and some low comps should be good to crack 300.

Beans · 25th August 2008, 23:29

Indeed - Time spent speccing cams and dialling them in will make or break it IMO, seen time and time again turbo engines gain ~30bhp from dialling the cams in properly. Most notably Vauxhall LET's running an XE inlet cam, dialing those in properly makes a hell of a difference.

Will carry on researching, and hopefully in the next year or so I'll have something to prove a lot of people wrong

JamesR^m · 26th August 2008, 14:44

go and get yaself a nitrous oxide system. you wont have 300bhp on tap all the time but at least you could experience what it felt like for a whole 10 seconds lol

Mystic^p · 26th August 2008, 14:58

After such a decent read, I am thoroughly disappointed with the last comment lol

Ryan^p · 26th August 2008, 14:59

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Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

go and get yaself a nitrous oxide system. you wont have 300bhp on tap all the time but at least you could experience what it felt like for a whole 10 seconds lol

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Originally Posted by Mystic

After such a decent read, I am thoroughly disappointed with the last comment lol

aye theres allways some twat posting shite for the sake of it, shame really.

CampDavid · 26th August 2008, 15:46

In a bid for 300BHP you may wish to start off with buying other peoples work.

Sean's engine is for sale on www.306gti6.com (cars fo sale, 106 rallye) and would be a god sollution off the bat for 250 odd BHP. You could then PM Sybez on the SSC and go for his BE3 gearbox, flogging the one from the Rallye to fund it.

CampDavid · 26th August 2008, 15:48

In terms of megasquirt, I'm not sure that would make cash sense. mapping is the key here and I'd want to speek to Dave Walker or Wayne Schofield from Chipwizards first and then build the electronics around thei mapping suggestions. Both are quite good at not blowing stuff up on the rollers, which will save you cash, rather than saving a couple of hundred on a megasquirt.

VTSJONNY · 26th August 2008, 19:23

300 bhp citreon 16v engine would last 2mins before melting

Dboyvts · 26th August 2008, 19:25

Where do you get this idea from??

Mystic^p · 26th August 2008, 19:27

Neil you got somewhere i can read your spec?

VTSJONNY · 26th August 2008, 19:28

the heads are shite on the 16v a ken loads of people hu have fukd them

if any one on this site thinks its possible to get a 300bhp 1.6 citreon engine yous need to have a word with yoursels

Dboyvts · 26th August 2008, 19:30

Eh think there mite be one in my project thread LOL

dannygti · 26th August 2008, 19:30

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Originally Posted by CampDavid

In a bid for 300BHP you may wish to start off with buying other peoples work.

Sean's engine is for sale on www.306gti6.com (cars fo sale, 106 rallye) and would be a god sollution off the bat for 250 odd BHP. You could then PM Sybez on the SSC and go for his BE3 gearbox, flogging the one from the Rallye to fund it.

unfortunalty campdavid seans enigne is sold, and if it wasnt it would be sold to me... i spoke to kev the weekend but i coudnt raise the funds quick enough and someone pipped me to it.

bullit · 26th August 2008, 19:31

get the gearbox then lol

Ryan^p · 26th August 2008, 19:31

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Originally Posted by VTSJONNY

the heads are shite on the 16v a ken loads of people hu have fukd them

if any one on this site thinks its possible to get a 300bhp 1.6 citreon engine yous need to have a word with yoursels

the heads you have taken appart...

yet are aparently the same on the c2/saxo yes??

Or do you need me 2 rite t lik diz 4 u?

Dboyvts · 26th August 2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by VTSJONNY

the heads are shite on the 16v a ken loads of people hu have fukd them

if any one on this site thinks its possible to get a 300bhp 1.6 citreon engine yous need to have a word with yoursels

Not wanting to sound ike a dick but what bit of its already been done do you not get?
The 300@ wheels mark has been done.

AndyL car has been running 285@ wheels for well over 2 years . Over 300@ fly..

VTSJONNY · 26th August 2008, 19:34

the Z20LET Engine (2.0 16v turbo vauxhall engine) with the vxr turbo and spending thousands stuggles to get 300bhp so dont think a 1.6 would