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20th June 2010, 14:31
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Will a PUG106gti gearbox and cluth fit VTR?
Hi all,
Just wondering, I know the PUG106 and Saxo are identical, but does anyone know if a PUG106gti gearbox and cluth will fit a VTR? Im looking at getting a 106gti gearbox because of the better gear ratio and the guy is also selling an organic racing clutch worth a bit of £££. 
Thanks for any help, 
Craig
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20th June 2010, 14:35
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Yes they will fit as they are the same....
If you got a different clutch to a OEM replacment it would be wize to re-enforce the clutch fork arm out side the earbox as these tend to bend or snap.
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20th June 2010, 14:43
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make sure the code matches up aswell unfortunatly theres people out there that will have your pants down.
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20th June 2010, 14:51
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box will, clutch wont i dont think?
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20th June 2010, 14:56
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box will, clutch wont i dont think?
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VTS/GTI/VTR/XT or any using 200mm clutch will fit. The pressure plates have different patterns for the allen bolts on the pressure plate which change in mk1/mk2 engines.
The organic clutch plate will more than likley fit within the standard pressure plate.
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20th June 2010, 15:02
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DB
whats the advantages/ disavantages of having a ceramic clutch?
are they really worth the extra £££?
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20th June 2010, 15:08
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Not really any advantage on a fairly standard car. Not really looked into them tbf so cant elaberate on their advantage on higher powered cars tbh!
Through using a Helix clutch theyre annoying as its more on n off and can be a good work out on your legs depending which ones you get.
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20th June 2010, 15:12
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Not really any advantage on a fairly standard car. Not really looked into them tbf so cant elaberate on their advantage on higher powered cars tbh!
Through using a Helix clutch theyre annoying as its more on n off and can be a good work out on your legs depending which ones you get.
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i see, my mates scooby has a uprated clutch of some sort and its horrible, either engaged or not with no inbetween.
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20th June 2010, 15:15
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Yeh thats the feeling I got on a vts I drove.
Quick google search on the advantage of organic/paddle/uprated clutchs brings up a few results.
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20th June 2010, 15:34
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just reading some info on a scooby site about them, some good info there.
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Organic: Metal-fiber woven into "organic" (actually CF aramid with other materials), original-equipment style. Known for smooth engagement, long life, broad operating temperature, minimal-to-no break in period. Will take hard use, somewhat intolerant of repeated abuse (will overheat). Will return to almost full operational condition if overheated. Material is dark brown or black with visible metal fibers.
Kevlar: High-durability material more resistant to hard use. Engagement is similar to organic, but may glaze slightly in stop and go traffic, resulting in slippage until worn clean when used hard again. Higher temp range in general, but can be ruined from overheating; will not return to original characteristics if "cooked". Material is uniform yellow/green and may look slightly fuzzy when new.
Ceramic: Very high temperature material. Engagement is more abrupt. Will wear flywheel surface faster, especially in traffic situations. Due to it’s intrinsic properties, ceramic has a very high temperature range. Material is any of several light hues - gray, pink, brown.
Feramic: This unique clutch material is one that incorporates graphite and cindered iron. The result is a friction material that offers good friction coefficient, torque capacity, and smoothness of engagement.
Carbon: Very high temperature material. Engagement is more abrupt. Will wear flywheel surface faster, especially in traffic situations. Slightly more durable and flywheel-friendly compared to other aggressive clutch materials. Material is black.
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20th June 2010, 16:08
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as long as its the right size clutch for your engine.
Never had issues with oem clutches like sach and valeo.
Only really need an uprated clutch when running big power imo
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20th June 2010, 16:10
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thanks guys, i can always count on saxpierience 
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20th June 2010, 19:04
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always remember for future reference, what ever gearbox you fit, you always buy the clutch that fits the engine, but yea the gti/vtr is the same
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20th June 2010, 21:04
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cool cool, im jus trying to fink up ways to improve performance without notchin up my insurance lol 
any ideas? my dad said remap cos he has his 2.5 v6 vectra remapped an it flys lol
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20th June 2010, 21:17
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nah i wouldnt remap it very expensive for not a lot gain at all
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20th June 2010, 22:45
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remap to compliment other mods, no real point on a stock car
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21st June 2010, 08:03
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ok, thanks for the advice
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