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22nd September 2011, 19:34
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L-plater
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: scarborough
Posts: 54
Car(s): Currently own 2001 wicked red Saxo Vts
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Why wont my car pop? lol
sounds sad but this is bugging me now, i have never come across a 106 gti or saxo vts that doesnt pop if you give it some shit on idle, and most do it on gear change. no matter what i do it just doesnt have any of it, been told you can do something with the carbon canister or remove it and it does something or is this just myth? i have pipercross viper induction kit, and straight through pipe with piper backbox so cant see what the problem is?
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22nd September 2011, 19:36
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tonbridge United Kingdom (England)
Posts: 38,236
Car(s): Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
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most pop due to shit exhausts/overfuelling....
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22nd September 2011, 19:51
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ringwood
Posts: 6,305
Car(s): suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
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you need a decat and a manifold. i believe it's the manifold that get's you decent popping.
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22nd September 2011, 19:56
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: west london
Posts: 13,810
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decat it then it'll pop 
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22nd September 2011, 19:57
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Abermule, Mid Wales.
Posts: 2,763
Car(s): Corsa Rally Car & Fiesta ST
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yep, decat and or 4 branch manifold.
done it for me.
doesnt pop all the time, but sometime son gear changes up and down.
and usualy when stood still and you blip the throttle slightly it burbles abit when the revs settle back down.
sounds nice 
ive got a raceland 4-1 decat manifold and a piper manifold back stainless system with centre silencer.
only other mods are a custom induction with a K&N cone filter.
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22nd September 2011, 19:57
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp
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Car(s): Audi
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does it snap or crackle ? . . .
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22nd September 2011, 19:58
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Surrey
Posts: 2,608
Car(s): 200sx s14a
mark 1 vts
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decat, manifold, blah blah blah. Its just unburnt fuel being dumped into the hot exhaust, ergo, overfuelling and killing your valve stem seals
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22nd September 2011, 19:58
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,946
Car(s): Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye,
Saxo VTS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tonto_VTR
does it snap or crackle ? . . .
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Mine snapped.
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22nd September 2011, 20:00
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Derby
Posts: 410
Car(s): 1.4 saxo furio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wadoryu
you need a decat and a manifold. i believe it's the manifold that get's you decent popping.
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not got a decat or manifold and mine pops
just overfueling i think is main condender, but decat does help it alot
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22nd September 2011, 20:03
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: west london
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or get a 4inch peco backbox like mine lol looks fucking huge but i love the sound it makes. pops after every gear change
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22nd September 2011, 20:06
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: England
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I have a S' through system. As i have a MK2 VTR, the CAT is in the manifold and i've not removed this yet with my Sportex back box it pops and gurgles nicely.
Edit: I meant VTR
Last edited by logic_guy; 22nd September 2011 at 20:24.
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22nd September 2011, 20:22
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Saxperience Post Whore
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ringwood
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Car(s): suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggis_dcfc
not got a decat or manifold and mine pops
just overfueling i think is main condender, but decat does help it alot
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then you have problems dude
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22nd September 2011, 20:23
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Swansea
Posts: 4,946
Car(s): Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye,
Saxo VTS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by logic_guy
I have a S' through system. As i have a MK2 VTS, the CAT is in the manifold and i've not removed this yet with my Sportex back box it pops and gurgles nicely.
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All the VTS Cats are under the car.
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22nd September 2011, 20:23
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_P
All the VTS Cats are under the car.
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I never knew that. What's the reason for that?
Btw.. I meant VTR,
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22nd September 2011, 20:47
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L-plater
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: chichester
Posts: 77
Car(s): rocket wotsit west coast vts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wicked-vtr
decat, manifold, blah blah blah. Its just unburnt fuel being dumped into the hot exhaust, ergo, overfuelling and killing your valve stem seals
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my valve stem seals are on the way out. and have major over fueling. but the flames and poping on both up change and shut off well worth it lol, big soot patch on the rear bumper.
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23rd September 2011, 00:21
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Swindon
Posts: 577
Car(s): MGB Sebring Track (WIP),
Saxo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_P
All the VTS Cats are under the car.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by logic_guy
I never knew that. What's the reason for that?
Btw.. I meant VTR,
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because otherwise you can here them meowing
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23rd September 2011, 02:21
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L-plater
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: scarborough
Posts: 54
Car(s): Currently own 2001 wicked red Saxo Vts
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This is what annoys me. It is already decat, straight through droo manifold to backbox, all it does is a few crackles when im releasing clutch slowly at low revs  shit being the odd one out ha
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23rd September 2011, 08:56
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Gwynedd
Posts: 184
Car(s): Saxo VTS | Defender 90 | Kawasaki ZX6R
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I grew out of wanting pops, bangs and flames when I stopped being 17, but I still do love flicking the kill switch on the bike to scare people at bus stops and in tunnels with a massive backfire! A Saxo doesn't compare!
But FWIW I've got a standard manifold, Magnex decat stainless centre silencer and backbox. It gives a nice burble on idle and a deep bass sporty tone when given the beans, I'm not into raspy rally noise unless it's a full on track car and mine isn't. Mine pops when changing up on the beans, you won't get yours to do it unless you get rid of the cat.
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23rd September 2011, 11:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkslider
I grew out of wanting pops, bangs and flames when I stopped being 17
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You need to see a doctor. A proper engine making pops, bangs and flames is one of the great things about tuning cars.
You need a good manifold, and a correctly matched performance exhaust system that has high gas speed so fuel is scavenged from the inlet when the exhaust valves are open. Then fuel and air is drawn into the hot exhaust and you get the right sounds. Longer duration camshafts such as the Cat cams 1321708 obviously help. you certainly dont want a horrible restrictive cat though.
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23rd September 2011, 11:15
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This thread, well - the OP's post sums up saxo owners.
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