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4th July 2013, 21:27
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Car(s): Vtr conversion +
Vts conversion
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Injectors
Hi, I read somewhere that clio 172 injectors fit onto a vts engine. Is this the whole rail that fits? Or you put the injectors into a vts rail or what? Thanks in advance for any help
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4th July 2013, 21:49
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Location: Sweden, Ytterby
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Car(s): Citroen Saxo VTS -98
Volvo S70 T5 -99
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Injectors.
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4th July 2013, 21:57
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Can you elaborate? Clio injectors into vts rail? My car may have set itself on fire earlier and melted the fuel rail so im kind of hoping its the clio rail... Never good
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4th July 2013, 22:41
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No you want the vts rail
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4th July 2013, 22:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbob56789
Can you elaborate? Clio injectors into vts rail? My car may have set itself on fire earlier and melted the fuel rail so im kind of hoping its the clio rail... Never good
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Yes, clio injectors into the VTS fuel rail.
This is the kind of injectors they uses, pico :
https://www.google.se/search?client=...K8XTtQbk14DoDA
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4th July 2013, 22:58
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What other mods dose the engine have?
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4th July 2013, 23:10
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Car(s): Vtr conversion +
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Err 4-2-1, induction and exhaust I believe that's all.. just bought the car how come?
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4th July 2013, 23:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbob56789
Err 4-2-1, induction and exhaust I believe that's all.. just bought the car how come?
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because you have no need for the clio injectors at all.
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4th July 2013, 23:41
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Yeah, not yet but as I said, I melted my current one
And as I'm upgrading the engine its another thing taken care of
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4th July 2013, 23:41
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Yeah, not yet but as I said, I melted my current one
And as I'm upgrading the engine its another thing taken care of
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4th July 2013, 23:47
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But you can't do that they flow far too much fuel to run on a standard engine. You will end up over fueling like crazy and end up with bore wash.
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4th July 2013, 23:50
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Car(s): Vtr conversion +
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The car isnt being used yet  its off the road whilst i'm tinkering
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5th July 2013, 00:06
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Location: Cambridge(ish), UK.
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Are you planning 170+ Hp then? As Bedford says the clio ones will over fuel horribly.
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5th July 2013, 10:37
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You will need to saxo fuel rail, unless you remap you will be causing crazy bore wash. Possibly even make less lower than standard as you are using the same pressure with larger injectors.
So here's what you need to do.
Buy a saxo fuel rail, funnily enough I have a couple of spare vts ones.
If you wish to upgrade you are much better off increasing the fuel pressure rather than the injectors, but to do so you will need to ultrasonically clean them, otherwise the imbalance will be amplified.
And still need a remap.
Really worth it with the mods you have? No.
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5th July 2013, 10:52
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Theres a rail with vts injectors on ebay just now.
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